***OFFICAL*** Left 4 Dead Thread!

Delvis said:
Ah, shame that :(

Get him to buy a new one then :p

Or get a back up so it kicks in when his other one dies :rolleyes:

;)

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Personally, in response to Durzel's post, I think the way they have made the Tank and witch spawn in the EXACT same spots for both games is a bit silly......If they just added the 'fix' that makes the tank / witch spawn for both teams, then it would be perfect.

Knowing where the Tank is going to be is a bit of a let down really....takes the 'fun' out of it when your a survivor.
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I can see why they did it, the original implementation was just as flawed imo. Getting a Tank in a "bad" place in the round can be just as bad as the current system - prior to the patch there were a number of games where one team would get a Tank when the Survivors were in enclosed corridors and the other one would get it when they were in a wide open, easily defended space. As now the result was that the team in the enclosed space was wiped and the one in the open survived. Again, this is hardly fair.

Unfortunately whilst getting Tank in the same place technically makes it more about the individual skill of the person controlling it, giving one team foresight of where it's going to be is too debilitating. Since you can't keep control anymore by punching physics objects around if you end up facing off against a team who knows where you're going to be and just camps you're pretty much buggered.

I suppose the question is how can you make it fair without arbitrarily handicapping the better team? One idea I saw mentioned was making it so the winning team has to go survivor first the next round, another idea - maybe too savage - would be despawning the upgrade guns or extra medkits for a team that's massively in front in points.

That said I'm not entirely sure the whole points system is something that any fix should be based off of - you can play a game where you make 4 Survivors use their medkits and your team reaches the safehouse still carrying theirs and the points difference will be tiny (at least on the early round) even though technically you did a much better job as infected. The whole points multilpier thing doesn't make sense either - it just seems so arbitrary.

Sounds like I'm whining really :( I enjoy playing the game but more and more I find myself unwilling to put up with the various handicaps thrown at me.
 
Delvis said:
People quitted from a game I was in earlier with Knubj3 :(

Nevermind :)
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I was one of them, though it was a despair quit rather than a rage quit. Team mates standing next to you and letting the hunter kill you, no cohesion in the team. Wasn't fun so left and did something else.

As it stands this game is screaming out for new maps, without them it's time will be short lived.
 
I've had a couple of good games this aft though just grabbed something to eat after the last one. There was a mix of ability but if someone gets killed they can be rescued a bit later on. I find it's all the more challange getting through when your down and everyone is in the red.

It's suprising how many people won't join a server with only 1 person playing... I've done that a few times but as soon as there are two or more it's quickly full.

Anyhow... off to slay a few more zombies ... it's better than TV

AD aka [OcUK d3cto] though the OcUK has only just been added !
 
MeddlE said:
I was one of them, though it was a despair quit rather than a rage quit. Team mates standing next to you and letting the hunter kill you, no cohesion in the team. Wasn't fun so left and did something else.

As it stands this game is screaming out for new maps, without them it's time will be short lived.
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Ah that's a shame :(....Tis annoying when you can see a team mate standing rite next to you while your getting mauled :p

That's when mic's are handy, as you can scream at people :) hehe

Aye we need more vs map definetly, I haven't touched much of the single player to be fair....well ive completed the levels....just haven't carried on doing them over and over.
 
Delvis said:
Ah that's a shame :(....Tis annoying when you can see a team mate standing rite next to you while your getting mauled :p

That's when mic's are handy, as you can scream at people :) hehe

Aye we need more vs map definetly, I haven't touched much of the single player to be fair....well ive completed the levels....just haven't carried on doing them over and over.
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I have a mic, I was shouting. Even worse, I'd just saved him. He got up and ignored me. Wish I hadn't bothered.
 
MeddlE said:
I have a mic, I was shouting. Even worse, I'd just saved him. He got up and ignored me. Wish I hadn't bothered.
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Hehe! That's happened to me before :(

I was in a public game once, and for some reason some guy just had a grudge against me, and just left me to die and watched over me =/....Silly plank.
 
Are the FragM servers fairly standard when it comes to difficulty?

I've just blasted through No Mercy on Normal for a little sight seeing with the AI, thinking perhaps someone might join in. Seemed to have lots of tanks and a constant stream of special infected pretty much operating as a team. I.e. all attacking in close succession. I'm sure there were three or four tanks just in sub level.

It was fun but I'd like to know!

AD
 
Aekeron said:
Absolutely no modifications to difficulty.

I've had similar games to yourself in the past - when the AI director is on form :)
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Looks like the AI director decided I needed a bit of company then ....

And thanks for your time and severs, I've had some good shoot ups on there over the past few weeks. :D
 
Delvis said:
I think the way they have made the Tank and witch spawn in the EXACT same spots for both games is a bit silly......If they just added the 'fix' that makes the tank / witch spawn for both teams, then it would be perfect.

Knowing where the Tank is going to be is a bit of a let down really....takes the 'fun' out of it when your a survivor.
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DampCat said:
Tank and witch spawning in the same place, as well as weapons, is really lame. The first infected team basically win because of it.
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I wouldn't agree with this personally. Yeah the first team as infected get the advantage of knowing where their tank will be and the first survivor team can be taken by supprise.

However, you can easily say "The second infected team know where their tank will spawn and create tactics around that particular occurance" Where as the first infected team just get told "Tank spawning now, go kick some ass".

I've done this with the people I play with often and it works just as well. It's all about your skillset as players and working as a team.

For example, yesterday had a BH VS campaign with some friends and OcUK lads, it was a nice fair game and I think my team ended up winning on the last map overall by only a few hundred points. It was perfectly balanced and for 3 of 4 (minus finale ofc) maps the main thing that kept us all on our feet were the tanks. (Each map the tank would take the team out).

As I have mentioned before, the best thing the could do to make this fair, would be:

Map 1 First Round - Team 1 (Infected)
Team 2 (Survivor)

Map 2 First Round - Team 2 (Survivor)
Team 1 (Infected)

etc

This would mean you would play as infected or survivor twice in a row at times, but it would balance out which team goes first on each map.

I'll be up for a game tongiht if anyone is interested, probbaly 7:30 onwards so watch this space for an inv!! :)
 
:-O

As for Buckz' comment, you're the first to **** off leaving team mates for dead LOL seen it happen many a time ;-) last few games I;ve tried to spend more time saving team mates held back by smokers/hunters etc than be on the offensive. Will have to be better at both from now methinks :p
 
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mrk said:
:-O

As for Buckz' comment, you're the first to **** off leaving team mates for dead LOL seen it happen many a time ;-) last few games I;ve tried to spend more time saving team mates held back by smokers/hunters etc than be on the offensive. Will have to be better at both from now methinks :p
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ye i do quit but it's not always ragequit... :) i would never quit if the teams are balanced... plus i didn't say any of you are noobs or something u just dont play enough to compete with the better players.. plus i get really ****** when there's 2 afks on our team doing nothing for half a round and then crying for losing for the other team... :o what's the point of me staying in the game if it's no fun and i dont want to play it at the time? :P
 
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