sorry guys, another dreamy thread!

I will as long as you keep slagging me off to increase your forum "rep" as a straight talker.

Not exactly making things difficult for him are you. You've asked on a public forum for people's opinion, don't get so upset when you're told its a bad idea. The internet is a harsh mistress.
 
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he knows what he is talking about though and you dont...

Sure, but he seems to think that because my preferences aren't the same as his that I'm wrong. I also didn't ask for his opinion on most of what he is going on about, or anybody elses, I already know them all. I simply wanted to know about the Spitfire, so thanks to all who have posted replies that are on topic.
 
Sure, but he seems to think that because my preferences aren't the same as his that I'm wrong.

My preferences are for large German cars with large capacity engines. I beleive my recommendation to you is a small hatchback with a small engine.

In what way do I beleive you are wrong because your preferences do not match mine?
 
Not exactly making things difficult for him are you.

Probably not, but I don't really care what some stranger has to say about me on the internet when he doesn't even know me. I'm honestly glad I'm not like Fox if he's like he is online in real life. He seems very arrogant, my apologies fox if this is due to me misinterpreting what you are saying.
 
[TW]Fox;13415333 said:
My preferences are for large German cars with large capacity engines. I beleive my recommendation to you is a small hatchback with a small engine.

In what way do I beleive you are wrong because your preferences do not match mine?

You have a preference of modern cars over old cars, I prefer old cars, or atleast at the lower end of a budget. You seem to have no emotion involved in your car purchasing, which is fine, you don't need to. But I hold cars with a lot of emotional, nostalgic, and sentimental value.
 
Not exactly making things difficult for him are you. You've asked on a public forum for people's opinion, don't get so upset when you're told its a bad idea. The internet is a harsh mistress.

I'm not upset, I just think it's a bit pathetic that someonoe has to resort to personal insults that's all. He can do it all he likes, doesn't make him look like a very nice person though, but then I doubt he cares, and nor do I really past the point of it ruining this thread.
 
You have a preference of modern cars over old cars,

Thats strange. I had an old BMW a minute ago?

I prefer old cars, or atleast at the lower end of a budget.

But my point is that this preference is based on nothing bar inaccurate assumption. It's based on a pipe dream that for a grand you can buy a spiffy cheap to run, cheap to insure and great fun classic car. You can't.

It's like me going into the home cinema forum saying I've a preference for high end Blu Ray systems for 50 quid. I can have that preference all I want, doesn't stop it being a load of rubbish.

But I hold cars with a lot of emotional, nostalgic, and sentimental value.

You've never bought a car or owned a car. How can you therefore have sentimental value for some of them?
 
I really past the point of it ruining this thread.

There is no thread to ruin. None of your threads have been serious threads and they are all plauged with inaccuracie and fantasies.

Ask carefully considered, sensible questions on this forum and you'll get carefully considered, sensible replies. Post completely random questions which change completely in the space of 24 hours and get ever more random as the thread continues (One minute you were worrying about depreciation then you were prepared to spend £10k restoring a Mini) and you'll get.. well, you'll get a thread like this.

My point is pretty simple - once you start having lessons and get closer to passing your test you'll have a far better idea of what it actually is you want. You'll have a bit of experience to relate to, you'll know how a car really feels, etc. When I was 16 I wanted a 306 DTurbo more than anything else in the world. It was an amazing car in every way.

When I could finally drive I realised that before I had a license all there was too a car was how it looks in pictures and how cool it sounds when you mention it to your mates. You are in a similar position now - you will change when you can actually drive.

I know I continually point this out to you but you continually fail to grasp it, instead prefering to think that the only reason I disagree with your threads is because you dont 'have the same taste as me' or something.

If it was me being unreasonable then I would be a lone voice. Read the threads, I am not a lone voice. I'm just one of the few who can be bothered to try and make you see sense. Everyone else read your thread, spat their coffee out, had a good chuckle and moved on without replying.

Which is probably what I should have done, in hindsight.
 
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You have a preference of modern cars over old cars, I prefer old cars, or atleast at the lower end of a budget. You seem to have no emotion involved in your car purchasing, which is fine, you don't need to. But I hold cars with a lot of emotional, nostalgic, and sentimental value.

Why does it have to be an old car to have sentimental value, my 1st car meant a lot to me and i shed a tear when i handed over the keys - it was a P reg escort. You seem to be stuck to the idealistic, rose tinted vision of old fashioned motoring where you'll buy a car that will seem to run and run forever and will have 'personality'. To be honest it is likely that you will hate your classic because it can't live up to your unrealistic expectations
 
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Thats strange. I had an old BMW a minute ago?

Relatively yes, I was meaning it isn't new.


But my point is that this preference is based on nothing bar inaccurate assumption. It's based on a pipe dream that for a grand you can buy a spiffy cheap to run, cheap to insure and great fun classic car. You can't.

It's not based on much facts no, but then I tend to choose cars and most things in fact with my heart not my head, if that makes me happier I don't see why your so bothered. To be honest though, you've insulted me on a personal level for no justifiable reason, so for that reason alone I'd never take advice off you, even if it made perfect sense.


It's like me going into the home cinema forum saying I've a preference for high end Blu Ray systems for 50 quid. I can have that preference all I want, doesn't stop it being a load of rubbish.

No it's nothing like that. Hi-Fi equipment very rarely has emotional value, and I'm sure it can for some people, not as commonly as cars do. And the simple fact is that you can get a decent Spitfire for around 2k, you can get a fully restored mint example for about 4k.


You've never bought a car or owned a car. How can you therefore have sentimental value for some of them?

My family have cars, and I find British cars 10 times more attractive than anything else, note all three cars I've said I've considered on here have been British.
 
Why does it have to be an old car to have sentimental value, my 1st car meant a lot to me and i nearly weeped when i handed over the keys - it was a P reg escort.

Exactly. I made that point to him in one of his other threads and he totally ignored that, as well.

Everyones first car has huge sentimental value. Everyone loves their first car, even though most peoples first cars are completely and utterly crap. It's just.. one of those things. As a result, putting huge amounts of thought into the purchasing process is rather futile, buy something, enjoy it, learn what you like and what you dont like, then its your second car where you can really start chosing what path you want to take in the world of motoring.
 
It's not based on much facts no, but then I tend to choose cars and most things in fact with my heart not my head, if that makes me happier I don't see why your so bothered.

Having a huge pile of broken pig iron on your driveway will not make you happy however much you think it will. Not unless you a proper oily classic car enthusiast which it is utterly obvious from your posts that you are not.

To be honest though, you've insulted me on a personal level for no justifiable reason, so for that reason alone I'd never take advice off you, even if it made perfect sense.

Don't be so wet, I've done nothing of the sort.

No it's nothing like that. Hi-Fi equipment very rarely has emotional value, and I'm sure it can for some people, not as commonly as cars do.

:rolleyes: It was an analogy. I was making a point..

And the simple fact is that you can get a decent Spitfire for around 2k, you can get a fully restored mint example for about 4k.

It's a 'simple fact' is it? Amazing. So in less than 2 hours since posting this thread suddenly you know enough about Spitfires to be able to tell us how much you need to pay for a decent example, and presumably what a decent example is. And you wonder why your credibility is continually questioned?

My family have cars, and I find British cars 10 times more attractive than anything else, note all three cars I've said I've considered on here have been British.

Have you considered an Austin Princess?
 
[TW]Fox;13415376 said:
There is no thread to ruin. None of your threads have been serious threads and they are all plauged with inaccuracie and fantasies.

Ask carefully considered, sensible questions on this forum and you'll get carefully considered, sensible replies. Post completely random questions which change completely in the space of 24 hours and get ever more random as the thread continues (One minute you were worrying about depreciation then you were prepared to spend £10k restoring a Mini) and you'll get.. well, you'll get a thread like this.

My point is pretty simple - once you start having lessons and get closer to passing your test you'll have a far better idea of what it actually is you want. You'll have a bit of experience to relate to, you'll know how a car really feels, etc. When I was 16 I wanted a 306 DTurbo more than anything else in the world. It was an amazing car in every way.

When I could finally drive I realised that before I had a license all there was too a car was how it looks in pictures and how cool it sounds when you mention it to your mates. You are in a similar position now - you will change when you can actually drive.

I know I continually point this out to you but you continually fail to grasp it, instead prefering to think that the only reason I disagree with your threads is because you dont 'have the same taste as me' or something.

If it was me being unreasonable then I would be a lone voice. Read the threads, I am not a lone voice. I'm just one of the few who can be bothered to try and make you see sense. Everyone else read your thread, spat their coffee out, had a good chuckle and moved on without replying.

Which is probably what I should have done, in hindsight.

I know it's not reasonable, I don't care, I like it, I don't have to justify it other than financially since the car doesn't have to serve any real purpose.

You've made your point, many times, I've said I agree with you on that specific point, but I highly doubt it will change my mind that much.


This wasn't a silly thread at all, I found two previous ideas to be less ideal than anticipated, you've so far said nothing which makes this idea seem like a bad one to me.

We have totally different philosophies when it comes to cars, so there is no real point in this argument. You've made your point, move on.
 
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Exactly. I made that point to him in one of his other threads and he totally ignored that, as well.

Everyones first car has huge sentimental value. Everyone loves their first car, even though most peoples first cars are completely and utterly crap. It's just.. one of those things. As a result, putting huge amounts of thought into the purchasing process is rather futile, buy something, enjoy it, learn what you like and what you dont like, then its your second car where you can really start chosing what path you want to take in the world of motoring.

But I can get a much better car in my opinion for less money, I'm not going to spend more on something I don't like.
 
Having a huge pile of broken pig iron on your driveway will not make you happy however much you think it will. Not unless you a proper oily classic car enthusiast which it is utterly obvious from your posts that you are not.

Well that's why I'd get one in good condition, plus every starts somewhere, I'm only 17.

Don't be so wet, I've done nothing of the sort.

Maybe you need to think about what your saying some more then, I hope you don't treat people like this in real life. I'm sure you don't :)

:rolleyes: It was an analogy. I was making a point..

Yeah, a terrible one.

It's a 'simple fact' is it? Amazing. So in less than 2 hours since posting this thread suddenly you know enough about Spitfires to be able to tell us how much you need to pay for a decent example, and presumably what a decent example is. And you wonder why your credibility is continually questioned?

I knew a lot about them before I made this thread, I actually know a fair amount about cars, just most of it is just theoretical, and I don't have convential opinions on what cars are good, since I like to be different.

Have you considered an Austin Princess?

nope
 
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