OK! Now we have atheist nutters!

If you're truelly thinking rationally, you'll reach agnosticism, not atheism.


Not really - You can never prove the existence of a god, and therefore, have to logically accept that there is a chance of its existence. However, you can be convinced that there is no supernatural skylord, whilst accepting that there is the possibility of such a being.

This is athiesm's most logical conclusion, and still highly rational.
 
Not really - You can never prove the existence of a god, and therefore, have to logically accept that there is a chance of its existence. However, you can be convinced that there is no supernatural skylord, whilst accepting that there is the possibility of such a being.

This is athiesm's most logical conclusion, and still highly rational.

What you've just described is Agnostic Atheism - the best of both worlds really :p
 
If you're truelly thinking rationally, you'll reach agnosticism, not atheism.

I agree, but then again I'm agnostic :)

I was just pointing out the flaws in Dawkins' "preaching"

EDIT: Atheism requires no less faith than belief in God. You are right in saying that you can be "convinced" that there is no God, but it would not be a fully rational decision and, as such, is no more valid than Christianity.
 
If she'd said to a religious person there isn't any point praying because it's a load of tosh I am sure the same action would have been taken...
 
If she'd said to a religious person there isn't any point praying because it's a load of tosh I am sure the same action would have been taken...

Its not the same thing though, the person only offered to pray as an option.

Its a different thing completely to state that someones beliefs are a load of tosh.
 
We often see religious nutters getting carried away, but now we have... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7866934.stm

The thread title is rather misleading. It was the NHS trust that decided to suspend her and the atheist society only made a comment to the effect that it was the right decision. I think it unlikely that all the people involved in the actual decision were atheists. It is quite right that workers should not evangelise while treating patients. Whether or not that was how it appeared in this case may be open to debate.
 
After she had been warned to stop evangelising.

I understand what you are saying, it just seems a pity that someone who shows concern in their own way is treated so harshly. I agree it was a bit misguided but some people in the health service just don't care at all. Why should this quality be further reduced? Is distributing leaflets and an offer of prayer really so bad as to make a complaint? The person even admitted they were not offended. PC gone mad imo. I am not religious but i just dont get it
 
Nice, so because she said she would pray for someone, she's now forcing her beliefs onto other people. How sad.

Atheism seems to be becoming less and less about rationality and logic.
 
I dont think that atheist's can be blamed, just like Muslims cannot be blamed for terrorism, its just a small number of the. I am an atheist and think this is stupid.

Well, for one, atheism itself is rather illogical anyway, and secondly, you're right. I guess it's just the 'general' picture that's being painted, y'know?
 
If all she did is to offer to pray? That should be taken as a complement really, that she cares enough about the person to want to pray with them, and someone may actually have wanted to pray and it could have really helped them. It's a real shame she got suspended because of this in my opinion.
 
Removing religion from this for a second.

What a crock. The NHS Trust should be ashamed of themselves.

If one of your employees does something. Not too drastic, but you ask them not to do it again. You then receive a complaint about them doing it again how would you follow it up?

Nurses are paid to look after patients. The Trust most likely has religious representatives to that the nurse can call upon if the patient so wishes to. I often see our local trust's priest walking through the hospital corridor.
 
Jesus wept (see what I did there?). People are so damned sensitive that they get offended by someone saying they'll pray for them? Some people just need to pull their heads out of their own bums.

Besides, if you're an NHS patient, you have far worse things to worry about than your nurse's religion.
 
I think it's a pretty sad day if saying you are going to pray for an elderly patient is considered "evangelising" and banned.
 
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