Another plane crash in New York

Azagoth · 13 Feb 2009 at 05:22

Buffalo, NY though and not in NYC. 49 dead so far, apparently it hit a residential home and set the entire area alight.

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/577959.html

Looks pretty bad.

JohnRoss · 13 Feb 2009 at 05:32

ouch had a bad feeling about today and its not over yet R.I.P

Scuzi · 13 Feb 2009 at 05:42

Starts at 17 minutes in. Colgan3407 is the callsign. The controller tries to make contact with the aircraft then when that fails he tries to get other aircraft to look out for the missing aircraft. Despite knowing an aircraft he was controlling has just crashed, he remains very calm and professional through the entire thing.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kbuf/KBUF-Feb-13-2009-0300Z.mp3

Chilling.

Clipsey · 13 Feb 2009 at 05:55

That's terrible news! And so soon after the Hudson river incident

Scuzi · 13 Feb 2009 at 06:00

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7887555.stm

BBC News link with footage of the crash site.

Amnesia · 13 Feb 2009 at 13:00

i wouldnt have flown on friday the 13th tbh....its just not something u do

Greenlizard0 · 13 Feb 2009 at 13:02

In the USA they're as superstitious as that - a lot of high rise apartment blocks go from 12 to 14, no 13.

BlackDragon · 13 Feb 2009 at 13:06

Greenlizard0 said:
In the USA they're as superstitious as that - a lot of high rise apartment blocks go from 12 to 14, no 13.

Same in Hong Kong. The numbers also tend to start about 5, as some of the numbers below them are unlucky!

J1234 · 13 Feb 2009 at 13:10

It happened on the 12th not Friday the 13th!

jakeke · 13 Feb 2009 at 13:10

Greenlizard0 said:
In the USA they're as superstitious as that - a lot of high rise apartment blocks go from 12 to 14, no 13.

Same here in the UK

Wicksta · 13 Feb 2009 at 13:10

memory said:
i wouldnt have flown on friday the 13th tbh....its just not something u do

Yes, if you're 12 years old.

Amnesia · 13 Feb 2009 at 13:33

because i want to make it to 13

Egon · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:38

Justin said:
It happened on the 12th not Friday the 13th!

Was going to point this out, thought I was the only one who'd noticed

Scuzi · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:43

Justin said:
It happened on the 12th not Friday the 13th!

The clocks in the plane and in the air traffic control tower will have been showing approximately 0315 on Friday 13th February.

philjohn · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:46

Strange that there was no mayday call, makes it sound like controlled flight into terrain (it was foggy with some snow, plus it was night so not beyond the realms of possibility).

shauncr91 · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:46

memory said:
i wouldnt have flown on friday the 13th tbh....its just not something u do

Why, it's all a load of crap anyway.

998cc · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:49

Among the crash victims was Beverly Eckert, the widow of Sean Rooney, who was killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Eckert was traveling to Buffalo for a family celebration of what would have been her husband's 58th birthday.

Egon · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:50

Scuzi said:
The clocks in the plane and in the air traffic control tower will have been showing approximately 0315 on Friday 13th February.

Would it? Why? Do they show GMT times as well as their localised times? :confused:

Scuzi · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:51

EgonSpengler said:
Would it? Why? Do they show GMT times as well as their localised times?

Local time isn't shown. All time references are made in UTC.

Egon · 13 Feb 2009 at 14:52

Scuzi said:
Local time isn't shown. All time references are made in UTC.

Well there you go. Every day's a school day