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Anand: PII vs. Q9550 vs. i7 crossfire, Phenom II = smoother

I see this thread got rather off topic, but apart from that article being rather bogus (CoH the 1 game which had this claimed problem on the intel systems), the overclocked i7 actually had lower minimum clocks than the stock i7. Guess AandTech's system wasnt as stable as they thought.
 
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Final8y said:
A problem that did not happen on the AMD setup.
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I think what he meant was that virus scans might start running at random times, regardless of the CPU. The fact is that Superfetch is random and runs out of control of the user (ttbomk) unless it is turned off, means that when benchmarking this should be the case.

Personally I think the i7 is the obvious choice if you are made of money, but otherwise its more a toss up between the Phenom II and the Core 2 series' of CPUs. From what I've read the Phenom II isn't much better then the Core 2 (correct me if I'm wrong) and no, Fanboyism is not a good answer. Intel is better ;)
 
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Who said anything about stable.
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Well, I figured since you thought it was ground breaking enough to link to that picture that it was a stable system, rather than just a simple "oh it boots". Knowing that it can "oh boot", is of no use.
 
rypt said:
Well, I figured since you thought it was ground breaking enough to link to that picture that it was a stable system, rather than just a simple "oh it boots". Knowing that it can "oh boot", is of no use.
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Putting it across as ground breaking would entail a new thread which i did not.
If you think screen shots automatically means stable unless stated then you have allot to learn about overclocking.
If you look over at XS then you will see that people ask & not assume.
 
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Final8y said:
Putting it across as ground breaking would entail a new thread which i did not.
If you think screen shots automatically means stable unless stated then you have allot to learn about overclocking.
If you look over at XS then you will see that people ask & not assume.
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To me it is worthless information to know that a system can boot at a certain clock unless that system is stable - as such I find it stupid to post a screenshot of an unstable system.
 
rypt said:
To me it is worthless information to know that a system can boot at a certain clock unless that system is stable - as such I find it stupid to post a screenshot of an unstable system.
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Cant please everyone.
Many on XS are happy about it.
 
Interested in one of the Tri core 720 Black edition cpu's, anyone know when Ocuk are going to get them in, or when the uk release date is?
 
rypt said:
An E8500 can boot at something like 5.6GHz, does that make it it "worth-while" info? Nope.
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This is about phenom II if you have not noticed, not E8500 & Yes i would find that worth while news.
The majority of submitted high over clocked HWBOT,ORB,CPU-Z benches are suicide or near suicide and none of them require anything more than stable enough to run once & submit.

And what's worth while to you or any individual is totally irrelevant on a public forum as the posts are not tailored for anyone person and your not forced into reading or posting anything, its called freedom of choice to pick & choose what you want from what available.
 
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thing is, booting at some random high frequency is irrelevant to overclockers since it doesn't mean anything...it doesn't really give you an idea of what the chip is capable of..
 
Which just makes a suicide run pointless as well, as there are a lot of factors that can afect it; for one, if you run a completely stripped down version of an OS (Linux) that only puts 0.00001% load on the CPU at boot you'll be able to get it higher than if you try to boot Windows.

Suicide run numbers are also of no importance, as it doesn't matter what the chip can boot at, what amtters is what the chip can do at a 24/7 stable speed day in day out, and at what voltage.
 
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Which just makes a suicide run pointless as well, as there are a lot of factors that can afect it; for one, if you run a completely stripped down version of an OS (Linux) that only puts 0.00001% load on the CPU at boot you'll be able to get it higher than if you try to boot Windows.

Suicide run numbers are also of no importance, as it doesn't matter what the chip can boot at, what amtters is what the chip can do at a 24/7 stable speed day in day out, and at what voltage.
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I'm not going to discuss with you what is worthy or important to you.
You are free to ignore things that are of no interest or worth to you.
 
gurusan said:
thing is, booting at some random high frequency is irrelevant to overclockers since it doesn't mean anything...it doesn't really give you an idea of what the chip is capable of..
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The Phenom 2 chips that have been able to boot into windows at 4Ghz on stock, have all gone on to being stable at 4Ghz with more Vcore & high NB speed.
 
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