Cadbury Goes fairtrade

Call me heartless but I couldn't care less if Carlos gets a fair price for his produce.
I'll pay the lowest price possible for any given item if the quality is acceptable. Most fair trade produce I've had the misfortune to consume has tasted far worse than the equivalent evil capitalist item.
 
fairtrade is biggest load of tosh I've ever heard...

in a global economic market you buy with your head and get products you like as cheap as you can.....

if some dude in outer peru isn't getting paid very well then he should raise his prices or farm something that will make him money
 
Does this mean other producers will suffer from a loss of sales?

Yes, it does. And for a contract as large as Cadbury's, it will ultimately lead to job losses for the current cocoa growers. Pass the buck and shift the poverty elsewhere whilst appearing to be caring. Yes, very fair indeed, give everyone a taste of poverty - spread it out!

What happens in 10 years or so when Fairtrade loses it's marketing appeal and it no longer becomes a cost viable option? Cadbury and other manufacturers are going to ditch it. Fast forward 10 years in Ghana. The farmers have been using all of their land to grow cocoa for 10 years+. They suddenly lose their massive supply contracts, they have acres of cocoa without a buyer and most importantly, they have lost their skills in farming other crops or the land has become unsuitable for growing other crops. This leaves them up **** creek without a paddle so to speak. It has already happened with coffee and tea growers. It will be the case here too.
 
As to fairtrade in general I've got to say i'm not a fan it just underminds good old fashioned capitalism and free trade.

How does it do that? If anything, fair trade is a classic example of good old fashioned capitalism: the buyer and producer agree a price that meets their respective needs, and they do business on that basis. Nobody is forced to accept fair trade; they can make their own arrangements if they want to - and they do.

This is entirely unrelated to free trade, which refers to the removal of state-imposed tariffs and taxes on foreign products and services. Fair trade has nothing to do with tariffs and taxes. It's a completely separate issue.
 
[TW]Fox;13616003 said:
Unneccesary market fixing. It's against the principles of capitalism and can only result in higher prices for end users.
Against the principles of capitalism is it?

Someone wanting to make as much money as possible?
 
i don't buy fairtrade out of princeable so i guess thats one less customer Cadburys has.Not that it matters and not that i eat a huge amount of their choclate.
 
[TW]Fox;13616056 said:
Yes.

By sourcing raw materials at above market value?
And yet you have the producing companies getting as much as they can for their product. How is that not capitalism?
 
And yet you have the producing companies getting as much as they can for their product. How is that not capitalism?

Capitalism isn't about making as much money as possible, it's about letting the market decide prices rather than artificially fixing them. And then using the market to make as much money as possible.
 
This is entirely unrelated to free trade, which refers to the removal of state-imposed tariffs and taxes on foreign products and services. Fair trade has nothing to do with tariffs and taxes. It's a completely separate issue.

I don't see it as unrelated, the "fairtrade" scheme seems to have been introduced to mollify, at least some of, those who previously campaigned for free trade. It only helps those who sign up for the scheme and creates an ultimately unsustainable and artificial demand for a specific product.
 
Capitalism isn't about making as much money as possible, it's about letting the market decide prices rather than artificially fixing them. And then using the market to make as much money as possible.

Well now I suppose you're into semantics. I would say that capitalism is about making as much money as possible.
 
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