Why the **** can't people drive?!

Matt82 said:
that does grind my gears to an extent, a bit like when lorries have their snail races on motorways, screwing up progress for everyone else.

i admit that i have flashed my headlights from time to time, but only after having sat there patiently
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Same, I've given the odd flash (:p )

Snailraces suck so bad, lorry drivers seem to love it here more than anyone else. When I've been down south or up north it's not been a problem :(
 
My biggest annoyance at the moment is all this salt/snow has degraded a lot of the markings on the road, now it seems most people rely on these to actually know how a 2 lane roundabout works, people just cutting straight over roundabout, have nearly been squashed quite a few times last few months.
 
rover416i said:
Seriously, I worry about what the heck the people on our roads must be smoking. I thought this woman was a one off, I've not seen such retarded driving in my 80,000 miles of driving.
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There's your problem. There are some who do actually drive well, however whenever I see some idiot in a car doing something daft, 9/10 times its a woman :o.
 
[TW]Fox;13651535 said:
I ended up with my Mondeo a few inches from the Central Reservation once on the A303 because of this. Stationary traffic in one lane, merge point 500 yards further down the road, I'm in the outside lane doing all of 30mph, and suddenly a van swerves out to block me. Very close. Then he spent the next 5 minutes shouting at me.
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You must have the temper of a saint, i wouldnt be able to hack that.

Closest ive came to a crash without crashing was me on a roundabout, the girl stops, looks at me, pulls out in front of me then stops. Dont know whether she just **** and slammed on the brakes or whatever, but for some reason the guy in the car got out and started to have a go, i got out of the car and went nuts.

Aswell, a bus decided it didnt need to indicate right on a roundabout, so i thought it was going straight on. ended up about 2 inches away from it, at the guys window basically screaming at him.
 
rover416i said:
The road merges back to one lane about 400 yards ahead of where he was sat, but what the heck gives him the right to block the lane, allowing no one past?
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People do this to stop the retards going up the outside and forcing in at the last minute, people can see they have to merge in but they don't, people just force in at the front instead of being considerate and merging in where there is a gap... What gets on my goat is that other drivers actually let the people in who do this.
 
There's an uphill section that goes from single carriageway to dual, I pulled out to overtake and the car in front must not have checked their mirrors cos they pulled out too, was almost 3 abreast on a 2 lane road with the start of a central reservation rapidly approaching.
 
peige said:
People do this to stop the retards going up the outside and forcing in at the last minute, people can see they have to merge in but they don't, people just force in at the front instead of being considerate and merging in where there is a gap... What gets on my goat is that other drivers actually let the people in who do this.
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You need to read the Highway Code then, especially the bits about Merge in Turn - why waste valuable road space by merging far too early, causing an even bigger queue?!
 
peige said:
People do this to stop the retards going up the outside and forcing in at the last minute, people can see they have to merge in but they don't, people just force in at the front instead of being considerate and merging in where there is a gap... What gets on my goat is that other drivers actually let the people in who do this.
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The thing is, if you read the Highway code, and especially if the traffic is pretty much stationary, you are 'supposed' to fill up both lanes to the point of 'merging', and then merge in turn (safely)..

I used to believe as you do, that you should merge before the point, and do it only when safe, however, this would seem against the highway code.. And with differences of 'opinion' of the highway code, I can see how these arguments happen.

The same goes for Buses around here, I was just alongside the back end of a bus which was stopped in a bay, it signalled just as I was a foot behind it, starting to overtake it, and he just pulled out.. at the next set of lights I came up alongside and decided to challenge him on driving dangerously, to which he said it was his right to pull out and It was my responsibility to let him out, as it's in the highway code.. The thing is, people tend to take the highway code literally and forget the other rules that apply to all situations, like not pulling out until safe etc..
 
peige said:
People do this to stop the retards going up the outside and forcing in at the last minute, people can see they have to merge in but they don't, people just force in at the front instead of being considerate and merging in where there is a gap... What gets on my goat is that other drivers actually let the people in who do this.
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Get your flamesuit on! Hope fox doesn't read your post :o

If I want to drive up the outside I will, if it wasn't allowed there would be one lane. It's my place to decide if I want to shove in at the front, I'm not an arse about it and cut people up, I patiently wait until someone flashes me in.

Likewise, if for whatever reason someone I'm on the inside and someone wants to come from the outside lane into mine, I'll let them in.

Edit: OllyM beat him to it, damn BMW crew :p
 
peige said:
People do this to stop the retards going up the outside and forcing in at the last minute, people can see they have to merge in but they don't, people just force in at the front instead of being considerate and merging in where there is a gap... What gets on my goat is that other drivers actually let the people in who do this.
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Lol, you need to read up about merge in turn, if everyone else did this then perhaps we would have less issues.

However we need to remember that que jumping in the UK is viewed on the same level as murder, or something.
 
It sounds like the white van was doing the Chiefly British thing of preventing merge-in-turn. And then the Fiesta tail gated the white van to make doubly sure that you couldn't possibly merge-in-turn.

Welcome to Great Britain :)
 
NathanE said:
It sounds like the white van was doing the Chiefly British thing of preventing merge-in-turn. And then the Fiesta tail gated the white van to make doubly sure that you couldn't possibly merge-in-turn.

Welcome to Great Britain :)
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Thanks :p

I've never seen this before and I've been on the road countless times, every day for the last 4 months. Once an Octy was trying to do it, but me shooting past at about 60mph made him change his mind.

God I hate this country.
 
NathanE said:
It sounds like the white van was doing the Chiefly British thing of preventing merge-in-turn. And then the Fiesta tail gated the white van to make doubly sure that you couldn't possibly merge-in-turn.

Welcome to Great Britain :)
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definately needs to be an IQ test with the driving test, or at the very least a much harder test
 
rover416i said:
Thanks :p

I've never seen this before and I've been on the road countless times, every day for the last 4 months. Once an Octy was trying to do it, but me shooting past at about 60mph made him change his mind.

God I hate this country.
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Try to keep your speed difference from the other "blocked lane" about 15-20mph. Any more and people will think "oh who is this numpty bombing up trying to push in..." and without even thinking they will then pull out and put themselves at major risk of being rear ended.

If you "crawl" past at about 15mph it gives them the impression that you're lost and for some reason it is much rarer in my experience to be "pulled out on".

Merge-in-turn is practically an advanced driving technique in this country. And all because other road users needlessly make it so hard to do correctly and safely.
 
What I am finding really annoying at the moment is the fact that on slow moving roundabouts, drivers coming into the roundabout find it perfectly ok to edge into the flow of traffic when other cars are exiting from the roundabout. It's as if the rule of giving priority to traffic from the right is ignored for slow moving traffic. I think this is bound to cause low speed crashes.
 
DB_SamX said:
What I am finding really annoying at the moment is the fact that on slow moving roundabouts, drivers coming into the roundabout find it perfectly ok to edge into the flow of traffic when other cars are exiting from the roundabout. It's as if the rule of giving priority to traffic from the right is ignored for slow moving traffic. I think this is bound to cause low speed crashes.
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In Cambridge the various A14 junctions always get blocked because idiots don't understand that they should not attempt to enter the roundabout unless there space for them.

Net result is... the traffic lights go green and you're stuck there because some idiot that is now very much focused on looking straight ahead or fiddling with his stereo to avoid eye contact with all the people that now cannot move despite their light being green.

One day I'll own a rusty red Toyota Hilux and these sort of situations will suddenly transform to being fun for me :D
 
If I want to drive up the outside I will, if it wasn't allowed there would be one lane. It's my place to decide if I want to shove in at the front, I'm not an arse about it and cut people up, I patiently wait until someone flashes me in.
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Which would be great if people actually did it for that reason, but people I see doing it are doing to get to the front, they can see they need to merge but choose to "safely" force there way in when they have run out of road. Saving road space is tosh, traffic would flow much better if people merge properly as cars bunched up.

Where the A23 hits Handcross and goes from 3 down to two, you get count down signs and everyone knows they need to merge, but people still hose it down the outside and force there way into a non existent gap at the end regularly causing accidents, do people think that the police advocate this because its in the highway code ?

Go look at a few instances of it and then tell me the ones steaming up the outside are motivated by the highway code.

Get your flamesuit on! Hope fox doesn't read your post :o
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Why ?
 
peige said:
Which would be great if people actually did it for that reason, but people I see doing it are doing to get to the front, they can see they need to merge but choose to "safely" force there way in when they have run out of road. Saving road space is tosh, traffic would flow much better if people merge properly as cars bunched up.

Where the A23 hits Handcross and goes from 3 down to two, you get count down signs and everyone knows they need to merge, but people still hose it down the outside and force there way into a non existent gap at the end regularly causing accidents, do people think that the police advocate this because its in the highway code ?
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If people merged in turn, the outside lane wouldn't be clear for such idiots to steam down would it? Saving up road space isn't tosh, that's why we have multi-lane roads. It helps with traffic. A 2 mile queue of people in one lane with 2 miles of empty outside lane which stems back to block up another junction which in turn blocks another road does not help traffic.

peige said:
Go look at a few instances of it and then tell me the ones steaming up the outside are motivated by the highway code.
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Irrelevant.
 
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