It's Luton, there be protests.

Interesting news article here:


The Armed Forces are increasingly fighting British Muslims with Midlands and Yorkshire accents on the battlefields of Afghanistan.

Intelligence reports show that rising numbers of home-grown jihadists have joined the Taliban so they can kill British soldiers.

The revelations came as the Ministry of Defence announced another three British soldiers had been killed in a roadside bomb attack in southern Afghanistan today.

[...]

Surveillance operations from the warzone has picked up voices talking with West Midlands and Yorkshire accents, according to official briefing documents.

The electronic 'chatter' confirms mounting fears that young disaffected Muslims are travelling to southern Afghanistan to commit violence against British targets.

MI5 has estimated that up to 4,000 British Muslims had travelled to Pakistan and Afghanistan for military training, with 'dozens' switching to the front-line.

Source.
Good! I hope they all get shot and killed. That'll learn them.
 
I came to post this.

I just watched something on TV, and they kept saying it's a small minority etc.... proof?

It is just a small minority. The proof is in the relatively small numbers of the various Islamist groups.

If it was a majority, there'd be a hell of a lot more trouble than we have now.
 
Scum! Nothing but pure scum! Religion of peace and tolerance my arse!

You sir, have my vote.
We mustn't forget that the London bombers were 'good, law abiding muslims'. They too appeared normal, pleasant members of society.
I, for one, refuse to trust ANY muslim. :mad:
 
Ironic indeed, but an irony that is sadly wasted on them. Cognitive dissonance is their stock in trade.



Many of them do. There are a number of Islamist groups currently active in the UK who have openly stated that this is their intention - most notably, Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Do quote a source?

They've clearly outlined their intention is not to establish an islamic state in the west.
 
Well they're interviewing Anjum Choudary, a well known extremist prat.

GMTV and the Daily Mail give muslim extremists exactly what they want, maximum exposure to rile up the more stupid element of British society and isolate moderate muslims even more as these people turn against them.
 
How many generations are we talking? What's the limit?

If they act like a Muslim extremist with extremist views. It doesn't matter if they just crawled from under a truck or if they have a deeper black country accent than me.
 
I came to post this.

I just watched something on TV, and they kept saying it's a small minority etc.... proof?

What proof do you really need? How about just have faith that the vast majority of humanity just want to live their lives in peace and not hurt anyone
 
Unless someone in government grows the balls to deal firmly with the lunatic muslim fringe in this country instead of being politically correct and respecting their human rights and all that other guff, we will end up in a situation in this country where Northern Ireland was 20 years ago.

If your body develops a cancer you don't love it, respect it, nurture it and give it the same love and respect you give the rest of your body - you ruthlessly try to cut it out, kill it with drugs, burn it away with lasers or irradiate it to death - before it grows and gets to a position where it kills you.

Instead of tradtional british reserve and tolerance we need a bit of Nazi jackboot in the face!

This also applies to yobs in the street, animal right protesters, speed cameras, most civil servants espousing political correctness etc, foreign call centres, and bankers :)
 
Do quote a source?

OK, not "openly stated". But certainly intended. Source? Read Ed Husain's book The Islamist. He's an ex-Hizb member.

Britain's Islamist groups are hopelessly divided along idealogical lines, but most of them all want the same thing: an Islamic superstate. The problem is that they can't agree on how to achieve it and where they should begin. Some want to start in the East; others believe it would be easier to start in the West.

They've clearly outlined their intention is not to establish an islamic state in the west.

That's mere doublespeak. Hizb's goal is to create an Islamic superstate from existing Muslim nations, and then steamroll it over the rest of the world.

By contrast, al-Muhajiroun (the movement started by Omar Bakri, himself a former Hizb member) wants to start with Britain. Its alleged breakup was recently announced, but it has simply continued to operate under new guises.

Don't even get me started on Anjem Choudary.
 
GMTV interview -

Whilst I can't say I agree with his views, he does put the points across very well, and he does raise some interesting issues about deposing dictators etc. The funniest part has to be when he said they are our dictators and we will deal with them - lol! Comedy gold.
 
I hate these little protest groups, i heard one getting interviewed on radio1 (newsbeat) about it and all he said was what about the familys of those that get killed? All the other arguments were flawed with very little evidence/intelligence helping them claims...


idiots.
 
Has anyone judged the entire Muslim community on the basis of these nutters' actions? Not that I can see.

We all know that these extreme Muslims are a minority. We also believe that something should be done about them. It would help if the Muslim community took the lead in this regard.

Don't know if this counts?

Link

But one Muslim community leader today condemned the extremists.
Akbar Dad Khan, of Building Bridges in the town, said: 'They are about 10 to 15 hotheads. The best thing to do is just to ignore them. They do not represent the views of the community. They are a small hotch-potch of hot heads.
'They love the attention and the media should not give them the time of day. The vast majority of the Muslim population in Luton - like elsewhere - want to live peacefully and get on with their lives.'

As a Muslim I am appalled at the behaviour of the protesters. Why do they always have to make life awkward for all the other Muslims who really do not want to cause any trouble?

If you live in the UK then you should support the brave troops who put their lives at risk
 
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Again, that his interpretation and claim too.

Who's to say the 'vast majority' don't agree with the protesters? The 'hot heads' might believe they're in the majority.

Then you think a large portion of the UKs community think like these protesters. I'd rather belive that the vast majority of our communtiy are decent, peaceful, law abiding citizens.

Also the person who was 1st quoted is a community leader, I'd like to assume he has his finger on the pulse with regard to the community he is a leader of.
 
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