Sir Fred Goodwin's Home Attacked

Chimerical said:
You could use that same justification for anything. Yes people do get self-righteous over it but its hardly suprising that someone like Fred Goodwin is getting so much publicity. To look at an unrelated incident I imagine people got self-righteous over Steve Mclaren getting paid £2m(?) for failing to quality for Euro 2008. That doesn't mean that he shouldn't take the money but at the same time it means he isn't immune from judgement.
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There we agree.
 
Rumour has it that gordon brown and alastair darling were seen heading for Sir Freds home carrying heavy looking backpacks the other night.
 
KNiVES said:
Please take a while think about who is actually going to pay for the repairs. Yes that's right, us. Normally I'd say 'this is wrong', but I'm finding it incredibly hard to dissent on this one.
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So it's ok for people to go around smashing up the houses of those that work in the public sector? Afterall, it is us that will be paying for it.
 
Chimerical said:
Who cares. Everything is just about as ****ed as it can possibly be anyway.
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No it isn;t I'm not seeing people buying bread with wheelbarrows full of money. nor thousands forming shanty towns after losijng everything.


things are still pretty much ok. if it was "as ****ed as it can possibly be" then you wouldn;t have the time to be posting on here nor the capability.
 
Strife212 said:
You think he pays any tax anyway? No one knows where he is, it's rumored hes in Spain right now. He's certainly not at the house that got vandalized.
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You think he;s never going to die?

You think he's never going to buy anything?


so yes he pays tax as long as he's here and ideally dies here with his kids living here not fully emigrated and missing the huge inheritance tax.
 
Tefal said:
No it isn;t I'm not seeing people buying bread with wheelbarrows full of money. nor thousands forming shanty towns after losijng everything.


things are still pretty much ok. if it was "as ****ed as it can possibly be" then you wouldn;t have the time to be posting on here nor the capability.
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Well obviously we're not descending into those extremes. Bailing out the banks was inevitable anyway and out of either Labour or the Conservatives I probably trust Labour more to "fix" things (for some reason).

But Fred Goodwin leaving the country and not paying his "massive" amount of income tax isn't going to make the slightest iota of difference. The Fred Goodwin story is about so-called principals and a few sensationalist headlines, nothing more.
 
Agreed that his massive pension has been used by the Government to deflect attention away from their own epic failures. Mob mentality like this is just plain stupid, and please, if you're going to do it, direct it at Westminster and Downing street.
 
matt_fsr said:
a) Brought a private owned bank to the brink of collapse, costing each and every tax payer in this country, yourself included, a sizeable sum of money. Some of which is paying his obscene pension.
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The tax payer is not paying his pension....
 
The police arrived in massive force 3 minutes after they were called to an incident of vandalism on an empty house.

Would probably take them 10 minutes to show up here if I was being murdered.
 
NathanE said:
Fred Goodwin was just doing what all the other bankers have been doing for the past 12 years ever since Labour took power. The *first* thing Labour (and specifically Gordon Brown as chancellor) did was deregulate the banks. He basically said "don't worry, give loans to anyone, even dodgy looking Russians, we won't stop you!".

Now Labour, wanting to divert attention from itself, has started blaming the bankers and for some reason singled out Fred Goodwin because he was a particularly public face and could be easily picked on.

It's pathetic.

Gordon Brown is getting hardly any flak for this situation he has created. The BBC seems more content with reporting the death of Jade Goody than what really matters at the moment.

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Well said.

The first thing I thought was, "what is our Impervious Leader trying to hide now. Wouldn't be surprised if he bricked Goodwin's house himself!
 
The banking collapse is entirely Labour's fault due to their ridiculous policies and deregulation. Labour are blaming Goodwin and simply passing on the blame to him. It's another one of their infamous tactics to manipulate situations and what amazes me is the public always buy it. I'm not saying other parties would have done things differently, I don't know... but the Government and their incompetence are to blame.

It is entirely their fault. They control the banking environment and if they create a banking culture which has little regulation and which encourages huge bonuses in the short run then can you really blame all these bankers for taking advantage of it? We'd all do the same in their shoes and I think a lot of people here would most definitely try and hang onto that pension. If it's funded by the state, don't blame Goodwin, blame the atrociously awful government as they allowed it to happen.

For the record economists have been warning the Government that our consumption/debt led economy is unsustainable for a long time now.

God I wish Labour would cut it out and just admit they cocked up, it would earn them so much more respect.
 
It's good to know where we are. So far jealously has been presented as a valid reason here for (a) ignoring agreed terms (b) advocating that some people are undeserving of the same employment rights as everyone else and so on.

Now we have that it's ok for vandals to attack people...
 
scott212 said:
The banking collapse is entirely Labour's fault due to their ridiculous policies and deregulation.
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Haha, I don't know where you get your ideas from. So it is entirely Labour's fault, despite the majority of the world and America failing to see it happen?


Labour are blaming Goodwin and simply passing on the blame to him.
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They may well be.


It is entirely their fault.
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It isn't. If we're going to blame anyone, it is the ratings agencies (but you could in turn blame the banks for trusting the ratings agencies, etc).


They control the banking environment
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I thought you just said that they don't have enough control over the banking environment? What angle are you going to settle on?


and if they create a banking culture which has little regulation and which encourages huge bonuses in the short run
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The government didn't encourage the bonus culture.. the banks did :confused:


then can you really blame all these bankers for taking advantage of it?
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No, you can't blame the investors for doing their job (selling products at a good price to generate big profits).


For the record economists have been warning the Government that our consumption/debt led economy is unsustainable for a long time now.
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A minority of them have, by no means a majority. At all. Not even close.
 
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