Do you take multivitamin tablets?

Glaucus · 5 Apr 2009 at 14:01

Kreeeee said:
Those A-Z all-in-one tablets are a joke.

Why are they a joke? I see a clear and easily noticeable effect and I have a good selection fruit and veg.

dowie · 5 Apr 2009 at 14:10

AcidHell2 said:
Why are they a joke? I see a clear and easily noticeable effect and I have a good selection fruit and veg.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

cheets64 · 5 Apr 2009 at 14:29

Freefaller said:
Nope I have no need to. For elderly people who struggle to eat properly and whose body cannot metabolise the nutrients from foods as readily it's a good idea. For healthy adults there should be no need unless you have a medical condition or your body lacks the ability of processing certain elements from food.

I took them for about 3 months and noticed zero difference, they are a waste of money.

OMG how did humans survive in the 1500s without Centrum A to Zinc :rolleyes:

Glaucus · 5 Apr 2009 at 14:32

dowie said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

I don't think a placebo can cure dry, cracked skin. Especially as I didn't take them for that.

ringo747 · 5 Apr 2009 at 14:33

I take some vitamin c tablets and also a tonic called Floradix which is some kind of iron booster. I had glandular fever back last year and was off for 4 months with it so anything to boost the energy is good. And yes i do notice a bit difference.

Vimes · 5 Apr 2009 at 16:39

cheets64 said:
I took them for about 3 months and noticed zero difference, they are a waste of money.

OMG how did humans survive in the 1500s without Centrum A to Zinc

As they only tended to live for 30 to 40 years I doubt that it would matter.

I do read some of the information found here on what is considered beneficial to eat...

http://www.whfoods.com/index.html

specifically...

http://www.whfoods.com/foodstoc.php

to see what nutrients there are in certain foods.

I tend to take a few supplements, but not every day as I try and eat healthily.

Crixus00 · 5 Apr 2009 at 20:10

They're not great imo. Better to source your vitamins and minerals from good foods.

DominicStar · 5 Apr 2009 at 20:35

I take them to plug any gaos that might arise if I have lazy or busy days etc.

What I do struggle with is why people will pay 2 to 3 times as much for a branded tablet with a near and sometimes actually exact profile to a generic one.

tom_e · 5 Apr 2009 at 20:43

DominicStar said:
I take them to plug any gaos that might arise if I have lazy or busy days etc.

What I do struggle with is why people will pay 2 to 3 times as much for a branded tablet with a near and sometimes actually exact profile to a generic one.

Normally the more expensive ones use more bioavalible forms of the vitamins and minerals which means you absorb more rather than it just passing through you

dowie · 5 Apr 2009 at 20:43

AcidHell2 said:
I don't think a placebo can cure dry, cracked skin. Especially as I didn't take them for that.

Why not?

Also what evidence do you have that multivitamins do have a beneficial effect and that your singular result couldn't be put down to either mean reversion, placebo or both?

tom_e · 5 Apr 2009 at 20:45

dowie said:
Why not?

Also what evidence do you have that multivitamins do have a beneficial effect and that your singular result couldn't be put down to either mean reversion, placebo or both?

Do you have any evidence that they wouldnt help?

DominicStar · 5 Apr 2009 at 20:50

blitz2163 said:
Normally the more expensive ones use more bioavalible forms of the vitamins and minerals which means you absorb more rather than it just passing through you

I thought most of it goes straight through any anyway though which is why some peoples urine goes funny so unless you absorb double or triple its pointless.

tom_e · 5 Apr 2009 at 20:51

DominicStar said:
I thought most of it goes straight through any anyway though which is why some peoples urine goes funny so unless you absorb double or triple its pointless.

Peoples urine goes funny due to the large amounts of Vit b12, although its not because its passing straight through them its due to the metabolite produced when b12 is used by the body, which is then excreted

Glaucus · 5 Apr 2009 at 21:19

dowie said:
Why not?

Also what evidence do you have that multivitamins do have a beneficial effect and that your singular result couldn't be put down to either mean reversion, placebo or both?

because I didn't start taking them for that and I didn't even think about. Something you have to do for a placebo effect.
It also returns when I stop.
The whole placebo effect falls flat on it's face, for this instant.

dowie · 5 Apr 2009 at 21:30

blitz2163 said:
Do you have any evidence that they wouldnt help?

Wrong way round tbh... if you're to claim that something works you provide evidence for it.

I.e if I said there exists a purple frying pan orbiting the earth it would be up to me to prove that and not up to the people refuting my claim to prove it doesn't exist.

dowie · 5 Apr 2009 at 21:31

AcidHell2 said:
because I didn't start taking them for that and I didn't even think about. Something you have to do for a placebo effect.
It also returns when I stop.
The whole placebo effect falls flat on it's face, for this instant.

Erm not really - the first time this happened could be put down to mean reversion too - you then attributing the effect to the pills can then cause placebo effect next time you take them to try and clear up your skin disorder.

Anyway have you found any evidence to back up your claim yet?

chumpit · 5 Apr 2009 at 21:32

I take cod liver oil for myjoints im all ready falling appart

and glucosamine / with my protein shakes.
but nothing else really cos it just turns into expensive pee

tom_e · 5 Apr 2009 at 21:32

dowie said:
Wrong way round tbh... if you're to claim that something works you provide evidence for it.

I.e if I said there exists a purple frying pan orbiting the earth it would be up to me to prove that and not up to the people refuting my claim to prove it doesn't exist.

and if your trying to dispute someones claims you need evidence to back it up

dowie · 5 Apr 2009 at 21:37

blitz2163 said:
and if your trying to dispute someones claims you need evidence to back it up

no if you claim something the onus is on you to back it up - asking someone to provide evidence for their claim doesn't necessarily require any evidence on the part of the person asking.

Glaucus · 5 Apr 2009 at 21:41

dowie said:
Erm not really - the first time this happened could be put down to mean reversion too - you then attributing the effect to the pills can then cause placebo effect next time you take them to try and clear up your skin disorder.

Anyway have you found any evidence to back up your claim yet?

and have you found any to back up your claim.
If someone is short of specific vitamins or minerals. Then tablets will help. If you take them with a meal the absorption rate is a lot higher.

And there's on;y one way to prove it and I aint paying. Is to have a blood test to find out what vitamin or mineral my diet is deficient in, then having a second blood test showing tablets have filled that whole. It's a very basic scenario. if you are short of something tablets will help. what effect that has, depends totally on what your diet is deficient in. If you are not deficient in anything, then vit and mineral tablets will do nothing.