NIST admits freefall speed

Its absurbed to even suggest pre-set timers in the context of this if it was a demolition, as you demonstratably have little imagination and can only see this in black and white I'm done debating the point.
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So you are saying they were watching the building and detonated explosives as the tower tipped. Some how timing the ensuing explosions lower down the build. You are suggesting one or the other. I have loads of imagination thanks.
 
So how would YOU account for the 2-3 secs of free fall that NIST said there was?

and please dont say fire because it never got that hot 500c says NIST
and the fireman(RIP) said they can contain the small fires on the lower floors.

as the sheer weight of the top floors pulverised 8 of the lower floors. virtually no resistance. Just as the report says.

It collapsed due to damage + fire.

wow they had a few small fires on the lower floors underconroll. they didn't on the higher floors.
 
as the sheer weight of the top floors pulverised 8 of the lower floors. virtually no resistance. Just as the report says.

It collapsed due to damage + fire.

wow they had a few small fires on the lower floors underconroll. they didn't on the higher floors.


So your saying it pancaked to the bottom?
 
Its absurbed to even suggest pre-set timers in the context of this if it was a demolition, as you demonstratably have little imagination and can only see this in black and white I'm done debating the point.

I'm not ignoring any evidence, I just don't see the evidence is exclusively tied to just one specific path.

I'll humour you. Please present a hypothetical scenario in which this could have been caused by a controlled detonation.

In your explanation, please include standard aspects of controlled detonations, such as pre-set charges (you can't have a controlled detonation without them) and the need to weaken the WTC's infrastructure by sawing through primary supports by 90% (a common preparation for controlled detonations).

Please also explain how these preparations could have been conducted without anybody noticing.
 
In regards to fire, there was a steel frame structure building in china that burned for something like 2 days at much hotter temperatures than the WTC and that didnt collapse.

Also, planes that struck the tops of buildings did cause damage to the top, but the buildings where still fine and standing true for a while after the initial impact, now IF fire didnt cause the collapse, how come both buildings fell in on themselves in a vertical pattern without falling over on themselves?

also, as documented on many video's if controlled demolitions of any kind where not used, why did certain windows blow out in a pattern the whole way down jsut before collapse.

If this can be explained by pressure of the floors falling in on themselves, why do the exploding windows follow a pattern, why are they not random?

jsut my two cents - Rip to all the hero's that died -
 
In regards to fire, there was a steel frame structure building in china that burned for something like 2 days at much hotter temperatures than the WTC and that didnt collapse.

and theres been 4 other steel structures that burnt between 24minutes and two hours and collapsed.
 
IF fire didnt cause the collapse, how come both buildings fell in on themselves in a vertical pattern without falling over on themselves?
Due to the way it was built, go read the reports.

also, as documented on many video's if controlled demolitions of any kind where not used, why did certain windows blow out in a pattern the whole way down jsut before collapse.
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the pressure wave that preceded the collapsing part. funnily enough if followed the buildings structure.
 
no it's more complicated that that read the reports.


I have read some of the reports not the 10,000 pages
so what do you say it is?

Nist dont know as they wrote to the familys saying they dont fully understand.

so whats your view?
 
so whats your view?

The reason they don't know exactly is the computional power is to high, or they don't have the resouces for a full computer model.

My view the weight and stress proceeds the collapse wave. so you don't get a full pancaking effect but a sort of one, where the structure is falling to bits anyway.
 
My view the weight and stress proceeds the collapse wave. so you don't get a full pancaking effect but a sort of one, where the structure is falling to bits anyway.


I like that view ;)

But proving how it came about is not that hard as you would think.
If Nist used a computer program that would take into account free fall
you get what you said or near but they wont and they wont release
there input data to test it on a program that will account for free fall

Thats the only way in my mind to settle this.

GIVE US THE INPUT DATA Nist :)
 
The evidence is more conclusive than any conspiracy theories are.


Which official report do you back?
The FEMA Report maybe or the Silverstein's Investigation
or Nist?

By the way they have all been accepted by the USA gov.

Oh ok I will give you a clue they are all diff but all have been accepted
just depends on which you belive.
 
Is there a summary to these 300 posts? Do we basically have a, 'the buildings fell down as described - due to intense heat weakening one or more floors' camp, and a 'charges were put in the buildings (which no one noticed) and were set off to level the builds' camp? Is that the gist?
 
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