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i7: worth it for a gamer?

if you plan on upgrading your computer in the future than I7, but I also heard that intel are going to lunch another chipset/socket which is extrmely annoying.

other good reason to buy I7 is becasue X58 can support both SLI and crossifre, and the Nvidia chipset board for the past generation were not loved lol and are still rather expesnive :o
 
i7 was designed to speed up boring office applications and CAD, not games :)

It's still 20-30% faster clock for clock than anything else out there even for games, it's just that games rely more heavily on a decent graphics card.

If you don't want to pay that extra for the best Core 2 Quads and Phenom II's are very good alternatives.
 
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Look at it another way. Why waste money on a dead socket 775 system when I7 is here to stay for at least 2 more years & Intel just announced shipping the 1M Nehalem CPU. All this talk about X58 mobos being expensive is BS. If you look around you can get a decent one for a reasonable price as you can choose one without SLI+Crossfire but the price difference is tiny anyway.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-159-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1283

The bigger issue is not 775 vs 1366 its what are you going to use the CPU for as PC games are not exactly rushing to support Quad Core and not exactly thriving in general as piracy is slowly killing it off right now.
 
Look at it another way. Why waste money on a dead socket 775 system when I7 is here to stay for at least 2 more years & Intel just announced shipping the 1M Nehalem CPU. All this talk about X58 mobos being expensive is BS. If you look around you can get a decent one for a reasonable price as you can choose one without SLI+Crossfire but the price difference is tiny anyway.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-159-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1283

The bigger issue is not 775 vs 1366 its what are you going to use the CPU for as PC games are not exactly rushing to support Quad Core and not exactly thriving in general as piracy is slowly killing it off right now.

£160 for a mobo is not a reasonable price IMHO, guys and girls face it you are paying because it' state of the art, you always do and no doubt you always will. The question you have to ask yourself do the gains out weight what it cost to get them. And I think from the above the answer is clearly no. From my recent build it did strike me buying a 775 socket was dumb until you actually thought it through. i7 is NOT in the best bang for your £ by a long shot. If you have the money to spend then yes you will protect yourself more for longer IF you are prepared to pay the premium.
 
I went from a E6600 core 2 duo to i7 mainly because i was getting less FPS in games where i know i should be getting more, even games like Counterstrike Source which isnt particularly demanding i was strugling to maintain 50 FPS on average size maps. Now on i7 with everything on max on 1680x1050 i never get less than 100 FPS. I also get much smoother gameplay on on COD4, while it is a premium for the setup, i was an early adopter for C2D, so i had it for 2 years.

I suspect sub-optimal configuration of your former PC, rather than a hardwarel imitation.

I very rarely had a problem with CSS using an Athlon XP and a Radeon X800XT...

Core i7 does not singificantly outperform a comparatively priced Core2 setup, unless you're talking the Q9770 which is now anathema.
 
That's the impression I'm getting from other forums. The more I think about it, the more that I realise it would be dumb as hell to replace an E6750 @ 3.2Ghz for gaming right now. Next year it is then.

Yep, i was planning on swapping for i7 early this year but quickly decided that my current platform is fine for just about anything, roll on Westmere at the very least.
 
£160 for a mobo is not a reasonable price IMHO, guys and girls face it you are paying because it' state of the art, you always do and no doubt you always will. The question you have to ask yourself do the gains out weight what it cost to get them. And I think from the above the answer is clearly no. From my recent build it did strike me buying a 775 socket was dumb until you actually thought it through. i7 is NOT in the best bang for your £ by a long shot. If you have the money to spend then yes you will protect yourself more for longer IF you are prepared to pay the premium.
Bang for buck never really comes into it anyway with computer hardware as it all depreciates rapidly. Best gaming hardware bang for buck right now is the X360 as most PC games are now multiplatform ports anyway!!
 
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Also the newer i5 is actually a step down from i7, its gonna be aimed at the mainstream market where as i7 is high end

If it is a step down where exactly will it fit above or below the core 2 duo's?

I don't see much of a gap between the two except a bit on the price.
 
i7 is for the media professional or enthusiast with no money worry.

A Quad at 3.6ghz has been fine for games for over 2yrs.

s775 is around for a good time yet.

Until mainstream i5

This is still the same now.
 
If all you do is game, keep your Core2 gear and buy yourself a nice monitor/speaker system instead of i7. Will do much more for your computing enjoyment than a processor upgrade ever did.
 
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If your processor you have at the moment is ok for games and general use then i suggest as mattus said to buy maybe a new monitor or speakers maybe even a gaming keyboard and mouse :P
depends what you have already but as i say that CPU will be fine only upgrade if it breaks completley :P

Rowan :)
 
Get ther i7 if you have the money. True only %2 of all games use 4 cores, but there's a lot of freakin PC games out there. Take %2 of 100,000 games and that's still 2000 games that are out there. There's a lot of downplay on the i7 but it's mainly because of price. It is overkill for just gaming. But I wanted overkill after having years of pc's that struggled. I would most definately consider it a luxury item.
 
I went from a E6600 core 2 duo to i7 mainly because i was getting less FPS in games where i know i should be getting more, even games like Counterstrike Source which isnt particularly demanding i was strugling to maintain 50 FPS on average size maps. Now on i7 with everything on max on 1680x1050 i never get less than 100 FPS.

I suspect sub-optimal configuration of your former PC, rather than a hardwarel imitation.

I very rarely had a problem with CSS using an Athlon XP and a Radeon X800XT...
mrthingyx how do you manage to say someone has no ideal how to build a PC so politely! :D
 
i7 is pointless for gaming...

This makes me laugh; shut up with your ridiculous comments.

If you already have a Core 2 system then don't bother with Core i7 unless you want to of course.

Me on the other hand; I had no system at all so I wasn't going to waste my money on an ageing core 2 system. Core i7 is quicker than core 2 for gaming if you have a multi card setup, fact.

RoEy
 
I always thought the rule of thumb for a gaming pc was you only need a cpu to run at a speed such that it doesn't bottleneck your current graphics card at the rez you play, and vica versa?
 
This makes me laugh; shut up with your ridiculous comments.

If you already have a Core 2 system then don't bother with Core i7 unless you want to of course.

Me on the other hand; I had no system at all so I wasn't going to waste my money on an ageing core 2 system. Core i7 is quicker than core 2 for gaming if you have a multi card setup, fact.

RoEy

That's not really the nicest way of saying you disagree with somebody. In fact, you don't even disagree. Just because mikehunt79 made a sweeping statement with inferred context (I suppose he assumed an audience who would get the context) doesn't make it incorrect.

If you have a system like mine (as posted above) and need to upgrade with a budget of around £1k, then i7 makes reasonable sense for the non-PC literate buyer: it provides a viable, future-proof (i.e. the socket will continue for the next couple of years) platform which can be upgraded by a simple chip swap by the Purple Shirts.

If the buyer is PC-literate, however, then talking of a future-proof system is pointless as he/she may well flog the motherboard/CPU combination and buy the latest and greatest thing a year down the line. As such, the money saved by going to a Core2 setup now and upgrading to something faster than current i7s now will be quite noticeable, IMHO, and performance will be on par for the Core2 and better in a year's time.

If you want to justify your purchase, then great: Core i7 is the fastest basic platform out there, in that it has the highest performance for the highest-end chips from a non-overclocking perspective (dual Q9775s are still faster for some applications, though). However, when a system is taken as a whole (i.e. buying Core2 and Core i7 for £1k), the Core2 setup will yield a better user experience because of either:

1) Better graphics cards
2) Bigger monitor
3) Faster storage subsystem (why bother playing a game 1fps faster if it still takes a minute to load?)
4) Quieter cooling...?

Just my perspective - doesn't make it the right perspective, however.
 
This makes me laugh; shut up with your ridiculous comments.

If you already have a Core 2 system then don't bother with Core i7 unless you want to of course.

Me on the other hand; I had no system at all so I wasn't going to waste my money on an ageing core 2 system. Core i7 is quicker than core 2 for gaming if you have a multi card setup, fact.

RoEy
ridiculous :D Do you know of any games where there is a significant difference between an i7 rig and a quad core running at a similar speed? I can't think of any.

By the time games are out which are CPU limited we'll probably be on another socket anyway...

I'm not saying don't get an i7 rig, I just don't see the point if you only play games...
 
That's not really the nicest way of saying you disagree with somebody. In fact, you don't even disagree. Just because mikehunt79 made a sweeping statement with inferred context (I suppose he assumed an audience who would get the context) doesn't make it incorrect.

Well his statement was uncalled for especially as he gave no reason why core i7 is 'pointless' for gaming. It's totally untrue. My predicament was I had no system so core i7 made complete sense to me and I did plenty of research on it before I decided to take the plunge.

Like I stated 'previously' if you have no system currently then core i7 is the wise choice to ensure you have a 'reasonably' future proof PC. If you have a core 2 system then it really isn't worth the upgrade...'yet'. To label core i7 pointless for gaming is pathetic. Sounds like some people are jealous of others...

I apologise for the way I worded my previous post but it's just annoying when people dismiss new technology simply because it's expensive. Each to their own, the way it's always been.

RoEy
 
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