Dailys Mail launch a crusade to prosecute politicans

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The Daily Mail today backs a move to bring to justice MPs whose flagrant abuse of expenses has shamed Britain.

We are joining forces with the Tax-Payers' Alliance to launch a campaign for the private prosecutions of backbenchers and ministers who have pocketed thousands of pounds through dishonest claims.

The campaign follows seven days of extraordinary disclosures which have dragged the reputation of British politics to a shameful low point.

Despite overwhelming evidence of an endemic culture of crooked expenses claims among MPs, legal experts think it highly unlikely that police and the Crown Prosecution Service will bring criminal charges against any of them.

Scotland Yard chiefs are understood to be decidedly lukewarm about bringing fraud charges since they are still smarting from the fiasco of the 'cash for honours' investigation.

But eminent lawyers believe that the actions of some ministers and MPs are blatant enough to warrant prosecution for offences which can carry a jail sentence of at least a year for anyone found guilty.

They argue that in the absence of a Crown prosecution there are powerful grounds for a private case which would see their behaviour subjected to the scrutiny of a court of law.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lps-launch-campaign-prosecute-sleaze-MPs.html

For once the DM are doing are crusade I support.
 
For once the DM are putting their considerably hyperbolic voices behind a worthy cause.

It really irks me, watching the news recently while these scumbags are voluntarily resigning behind their "errors in judgement" as it "is the right thing to do".

Absolute bunch of ******* pigs caught in the trough, that's all this is. Those who have found to claim more than £10,000 of erroneous, or quite frankly unnecessary, claims should be prosecuted and jailed just as the rest of us would be. That would also go for those found to have claims for ******* biscuits and dog food - zero tolerance. Nobody does that as an accident - they've been banking away most of their actual salaries while living off expenses and now get to come to the media and express their "embarassment" since they've been found out. Fat cats getting fatter while the country dwindles and the working people suffer. They need to be punished properly.
 
Is there a physical reason MP's have to have this second home anyway, can't they all just meet in a chat room or something.
 
This is an issue that (to me) seems to have been created by certain media outlets, because recession is no longer scary enoug, headline are meant to enrage, therfore you them.

This has been going on since the modern government was created, why is it now the media pick iup on it? slow news week? Political pressiure coming from somewhere.

A load of rubz!
 
This is an issue that (to me) seems to have been created by certain media outlets, because recession is no longer scary enoug, headline are meant to enrage, therfore you them.

This has been going on since the modern government was created, why is it now the media pick iup on it? slow news week? Political pressiure coming from somewhere.

A load of rubz!

Not particularly, when you think about it.

Those with two braincells like ourselves know from the outset that politicans, pretty much across the board, are corrupt. What we do, however, like a lot of the great British populace, is shrug our shoulders and think "meh, what can you do?".

The media bringing all of this to light, along with hard figures, has driven home just how much urine is being extracted to even the most ignorant Sun-reading monkey. THAT has created a unformly angry populace - exactly what is required for change.

This isn't the low-brow media leading an uninformed crusade against fat people or smokers - it's entirely different. If anything, this is informing the populace, from every walk of life, of something they should very much be paying attention to and be angry about. The fact that we have threats being bandied about within the parties, and resignations being tendered shows that it was the right thing to do.

They've been caught with their pants down, and if it wasn't for the media this all may have just been sweeped under the carpet in days. That itself would have been absolutely criminal. Unlike George Michael, however, I doubt many of these cretins will actually be prosecuted for their transgressions.
 
Look at it this way.

If you were found to be swindling many thousands of pounds out of somebody and then used the "it's all a big mistake" defence, would the government take you to court and attempt to prosecute you?

I say string them from the highest ****ing tree if they're found guilty.
 
Look at it this way.

If you were found to be swindling many thousands of pounds out of somebody and then used the "it's all a big mistake" defence, would the government take you to court and attempt to prosecute you?

I say string them from the highest ****ing tree if they're found guilty.

What's best is that this whole fiasco is also revealing just how out of touch these people really are with the majority of the working populace.

Some of them, in their defence, are saying that they offer no apology for claiming maximum allowances in order to make their London flats "habitable".

I can tell you right now that making my 3-bedroom house "habitable" has cost less than a single year's maximum claim for those ****s.

How on Earth can hiring an Interior Designer and following on with the necessary items/workmanship on expenses be classed as making somewhere "habitable"?

Perhaps in these modern times public flogging would be seen as a bit extreme, however I'd love to have these people put in a booth within their constituencies for a day while the public are invited to come down and, one by one, tell them exactly what they think of them.
 
Not particularly, when you think about it.

Those with two braincells like ourselves know from the outset that politicans, pretty much across the board, are corrupt. What we do, however, like a lot of the great British populace, is shrug our shoulders and think "meh, what can you do?".

The media bringing all of this to light, along with hard figures, has driven home just how much urine is being extracted to even the most ignorant Sun-reading monkey. THAT has created a unformly angry populace - exactly what is required for change.

This isn't the low-brow media leading an uninformed crusade against fat people or smokers - it's entirely different. If anything, this is informing the populace, from every walk of life, of something they should very much be paying attention to and be angry about. The fact that we have threats being bandied about within the parties, and resignations being tendered shows that it was the right thing to do.

They've been caught with their pants down, and if it wasn't for the media this all may have just been sweeped under the carpet in days. That itself would have been absolutely criminal. Unlike George Michael, however, I doubt many of these cretins will actually be prosecuted for their transgressions.


Ok, Me being naive and hoping for the best in people doesn't enter the situation, you know why? *most* of the MPs have been behaving within the letter of the law, so IMO they are not at fault, they are doing what every other person in the world would be doing. SO, IMO its the system that needs changed, obviously.

Also, IMO, there are far more important issues than MPs expenses that need an open discussion, that have, because of the expenses situation been pushed back to the back broadsheet papers, obviously pushed back, Just like the American terrorist reports went to amber when any bad news came out about BUSH administration. Again IMO, but this is what I believe.

I think in this country (even though realistically we are a two party government, we should give Lib Dems a rty, they cant mess up as bad as the Tories and Labour have in the last 40 years, and even though are sceptic's (hey So I am I) As I said, they would put all poliical rubbish asife and ge on with public services back in public hands, and what needs that especially is the Rail System, which we are the laughing stock of th world, I'm sure India are not fare behind us on that point (no facts, just a guess)
 
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Ok, Me being naive and hoping for the best in people doesn't enter the situation, you know why? *most* of the MPs have been behaving within the letter of the law, so IMO they are not at fault, they are doing what every other person in the world would be doing. SO, IMO its the system that needs changed, obviously.

Also, IMO, there are far more important issues than MPs expenses that need an open eiscussion, that have, because of the expenses situation been pushed back to the back broadsheet papers, obviously pushed back, Just like the American terrorist reports went to amber when any bad news came out about BUSH administration. Again IMO, but this is what I believe.

You're quite right. The overall message here is that the system itself is flawed. That is what has allowed all of this overall. Still, acting as such within an ethically bankrupt system, in my opinion, does not absolve you of personal culpability.

I didn't say that anyone has been naive - quite the opposite. Political apathy from the public is rather what I'm mentioning - a very strong element of the British mindset.
 
You're quite right. The overall message here is that the system itself is flawed. That is what has allowed all of this overall. Still, acting as such within an ethically bankrupt system, in my opinion, does not absolve you of personal culpability.

I didn't say that anyone has been naive - quite the opposite. Political apathy from the public is rather what I'm mentioning - a very strong element of the British mindset.

Really! Thanks for making sense out of that, :D

*edit* double serous! I remember writing that, I remember What was in my brain, that come out like 5 year old wrote it!, I used to think I was rather articulate, but posting on the internet as you get drunk litlle by little, puts you in your place, and also, you (I) will never post again half drunk, cuz, that is that I am.

Also unrelated, I have work in 4 hrs time, is it worth sleeping? I have done it many times before. but what is your advice? I favouring powring thiroug, with 3 redballs at 8am, I start at 9.
 
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Really! Thanks for making sense out of that, :D

*edit* double serous! I remember writing that, I remember What was in my brain, that come out like 5 year old wrote it!, I used to think I was rather articulate, but posting on the internet as you get drunk litlle by little, puts you in your place, and also, you (I) will never post again half drunk, cuz, that is that I am.

Also unrelated, I have work in 4 hrs time, is it worth sleeping? I have done it many times before. but what is your advice? I favouring powring thiroug, with 3 redballs at 8am, I start at 9.

IMO, going to sleep that drunk when you need to get up in 4 hours' time will be like an absolute kick in the balls when you open your eyes. You'll still be drunk....at the very least suffering the onset of a major hangover.

Stay up drinking for another two hours, then hit the coffee. Hard. As you say, lay on the red bull before you head to work, and live through it there with plenty of energy drinks and water.

When you get home after your shift you can collapse for the best sleep of your life.
 
IMO, going to sleep that drunk when you need to get up in 4 hours' time will be like an absolute kick in the balls when you open your eyes. You'll still be drunk....at the very least suffering the onset of a major hangover.

Stay up drinking for another two hours, then hit the coffee. Hard. As you say, lay on the red bull before you head to work, and live through it there with plenty of energy drinks and water.

When you get home after your shift you can collapse for the best sleep of your life.

Your advice is sound, I am a veteran, I just wanted opinions. But not matter what you do, come lunch time, you still crsh, but then comes along the secont wind, in my experience, its all about timing thes two situations in your day, As you pointed out you are still going to be a bit drunk come start time, so your ok, because your not drunk in th way that you'll make an idiot out of yourself, just not headache as of yet, and then after lunch, thats when I tend to get a mighty kick in the balls.

But hey your only young once right?... Right RIGHT?
 
Of all newspapers to be launching such a crusade I think the Daily Mail is least qualified to comment...you all honestly think employees of the Daily Mail have never done exactly the same thing as they are crusading against? How stupid.
 
Despite overwhelming evidence of an endemic culture of crooked expenses claims among MPs, legal experts think it highly unlikely that police and the Crown Prosecution Service will bring criminal charges against any of them.

Pathetic.
 
to me it seems the same as someone claiming Disability living allowance and then it turns out they dont really have a bad back at all and they could easily work.

these expense fiddling greedy politicians should get the same punishment as a DLA fiddler and lose there jobs because they arent honourable and trust worthy enough to have the responsability i know not a lot are but atleast blind trust in someone else is better than trusting someone who has already had there fingers trapped in the cookie jar
 
Something that made me laugh about this....Remember when Sirt Fred Goodwin was getting dragged through the muck and Jacqui Smith (I think) was on the telly saying it was right for him to be judged by the court of public opinion? I bet she'd not be so keen to hear the views of this court today :p
 
They will get bored soon enough when they fail then its back to attacking immigrants and computer games :)
 
Give it a few months and the Daily Mail will be claiming that they started it all. You'll see retrospective articles with side-captions entitled "How the Mail led the way". :rolleyes:

More power to the Taxpayers' Alliance, I say.
 
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