StarTrek XI - ***Spoilers***

one thing that still nags me is the drilling platform that lowers from nero's ship - someone from the planet couldn've just shot the whole thing down easily and be done with it!

very enjoyable film, I worried that I might not understand the story because I've not wacthced any of the early star trek films. Fortunately that was not the case.
 
I'm a pretty hardened Star Trek nerd so I found the plot to be completely ludicrous for all the reasons mentioned above and hundreds more I can't even begin to list but it was certainly entertaining, the effects were good and the sound was fantastic at the Odeon in Maidenhead especially when the ships jumped to warp.

I believed the hype and expected more than the film offered... whoever said it was better than the wrath of khan needs shooting. Still good fun and well worth seeing if you haven't already :).
 
DanH84 said:
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one inconsistency i can think of is that in the comics that i haven't read apparently nero disabled a fleet of klingon ships under worf and damaged the enterprise despite being a simple mining ship.
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In the comic, Countdown, Nero met a group of secret military romulans who gave them borg technology to fit to the 'simple mining ship' making it much more powerful and able to repair and adapt itself.
 
It's stupid how the single ship can destroy an entire planet and almost destroy earth as well. I realise it's from the future but that's not the point. The drill is weak enough so shooting it with handheld guns can destroy it. SURELY the planets have defenses of some kind. Anything.

It's all explained away by "Tell me the frequency to earth's defences!"
 
Nice, way to spoil half the ****ing film in your original post! ****, never heard of adding the word "Spolier" to your thread?

Guess I won't bother going to see it this weekend, especially as now you've just ruined it.
 
Azagoth said:
Nice, way to spoil half the ****ing film in your original post! ****, never heard of adding the word "Spolier" to your thread?

Guess I won't bother going to see it this weekend, especially as now you've just ruined it.
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I would have though the title insinuating that he was dissapointed would be warning enough that he might talk about some of the stuff that he thought was cack. Most people just avoid these threads till they've seen the movie.
 
Gerard said:
I would have though the title insinuating that he was dissapointed would be warning enough that he might talk about some of the stuff that he thought was cack. Most people just avoid these threads till they've seen the movie.
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Well I'm not most people, and I credit the people who post here with at least a modicum of intelligence when it comes to posting spoilers. Obviously, it looks like the OP is severely lacking in that department.
 
Azagoth said:
Well I'm not most people, and I credit the people who post here with at least a modicum of intelligence when it comes to posting spoilers. Obviously, it looks like the OP is severely lacking in that department.
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The thread title quite clearly indicates that there would be some discussion of the film's plot. If you are too stupid to put 2 + 2 together then it is your issue, not the original poster's.
 
Well, my thoughts. Please note this - there may be the odd spoiler in this post. You'd have thought that would go without saying, but apparently people on the internet are far too dumb to avoid threads on films they want to see but don't want to hear spoilers for. So leave now, morons.


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Right, my thoughts.

1) The alternate reality Enterprise still isn't pretty, and there seem to be a few scaling issues (nothing new for Trek, but you'd have thought they'd have learned by now), but I think the look works. Just. I liked the 'industrial' lower decks and how they contrast with the bridge. I thought the Kelvin was a good design as well, one that was believable as bridging the 'prime' reality universe (i.e. what we saw in TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT) and this alternate one created by Nero's interference.
2) Plot contrivances abound. It seemed like they had to rush certain stuff to get to where we needed to go (i.e. get the principal cast onto the Big E), and in their haste they made some questionable choices.
3) The effects, both sound and visual, are superb. And unlike some sci-fi/fantasy movies I could mention (*cough* Star Wars prequel trilogy *cough*), they didn't spend so much time on the effects that they forgot to put in anything resembling acting.
4) And the acting. Hoo boy. They were all good, but Karl Urban as McCoy....I was worried for him in the run up to the movie as I honestly thought he had the hardest job. He pulled it off brilliantly. Chris Pine made for a good Kirk, different and yet you could see some of Shatner's Kirk in there. Zach Quinto certainly looked the part for Spock, and while his voice didn't quite have the same ring to it as Leonard Nimoy's it didn't really have to - he's a younger Spock. I liked Simon Pegg's Scotty, as I knew I would. And the others were fun too - especially Anton Yelchin's Chekov.
5) So, where do I think it falls in the Trek hierarchy? Khan is still the best Trek film IMO. But this one is pretty bloody good, plot oddities and all. It wouldn't be Trek if people didn't complain about certain aspects of it, and at least when all the complaints are noted you're still left with a film that is easily one of the better Star Treks.

And an odd-numbered one too! Who'd have thought? ;)
 
I also liked that there were a few occasions where they took the sound from the space scenes. nice touch. Not in every space scene, but i think if they'd done that, a lot of people wouldn't have understood the silence, and possibly found it boring.

in particular, where the 3 of them jumped down to the drill. Excellent contrast from the silence of the fall in space to breaking atmo.
 
The best silence bit was when the Kelvin's hull loudly breached followed by eerie silence as a crew-woman was sucked out into space. Brilliant. Well, not for the crew-woman though.
 
I agree with all of the OP's points, the more I think about the film the worse it gets. I used to like watching a StarTrek film and being impressed that there was some real thinking about it. Or rather that the director didn't think of the audience as a bunch of monkeys who clap and whoop when something dramatic happens no matter how unrealistic it is.

Azagoth said:
Well I'm not most people, and I credit the people who post here with at least a modicum of intelligence when it comes to posting spoilers. Obviously, it looks like the OP is severely lacking in that department.
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What! You're joking right? You seriously though that a thread titled "StarTrek XI - maybe im getting old but i was dissapoint" wouldn't in some way talk about what happens in the film, or at least what DISSAPOINTS him in the film. I think you are lacking in intelligence not the OP!
 
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Azagoth said:
Nice, way to spoil half the ****ing film in your original post! ****, never heard of adding the word "Spolier" to your thread?

Guess I won't bother going to see it this weekend, especially as now you've just ruined it.
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thread title wasnt obvious enough? :rolleyes:
 
And who would have thought at the end of the movie spock turned out to be gay, i didnt see that one!


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Vulcan destroyed, wtf! Thats totally not what happens in tos etc.

Enterprise redesign makes me miss the old cony even more. :(

Romulans look weird i just dont like that and why oh why another romy film? Can they not do exploration of where no one has gone before as im sick of time travel action trek films!!!!

Spock, whats happened to his eyes he looks stoned or somit grr.

Some how early spock can fly the new ship in seconds, wtf moment again.

Scotty a wise cracking person, erm WTF again.

Vulcan cant defend itself, again wtf!

Blackhole tech, erm didnt romulans have this so whats spock gona do they (romys) couldnt do themselves the lazy *****.

Uhura kissing spock, WTF moment yet again... Also too tall..

I thought the romy ship at first was a borg ship travelling in transwarp conduit or somit. It doesnt look anything like a romy ship, i.e not green haha and bird looking.

Pike in the chair, why? Didnt know he broke his legs or owt on the romy ship. Also wasn't he in the chair in tos cos of radiation which deformed and crippled him and he had life support chair and them beeps or color things to communicate (stephen hawking beats trek technology cos he could use computer voice to talk lol.)

25 years or so wait for old spock. They can certainly hold a grudge, i would have expected them to have give up on waiting and just made a life with romulus or at least tell them the supernova issue so they could have plenty of time to think up a way to avoid it in the future.

Engineering yep that was too industrial looking considering its a trek ship and impractical looking for where it is.

The bridge, too white, i wanted to see the old tos bridge thats iconic and functional and made it look good, the new white and ipod look just doesnt look rite, hell it looks more advanced than sov bridge.

And many more nitpicks.

Dont get me wrong a lot is wrong with the film but i enjoyed it a lot and will buy it when its on dvd, as i enjoy anything trek even if its terrible. Just a shame the way they had done a lot of the stuff. I was grateful for at least a tos film. Shame it wasnt the tos i loved so dearly. :(
 
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