National freedom and independance is an illusion in the age of the EU and the NWO. Though the issue of independance is great way for scottish mps to scapegoat many social problems down to westminster.
Poll: Who will you vote for next General Election
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National freedom and independance is an illusion in the age of the EU and the NWO. Though the issue of independance is great way for scottish mps to scapegoat many social problems down to westminster.
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HAHAHAH I take it your forgetting the thousands of Scots who supported the English when the two nations were at war. Any Scot who believes Scotland would be better as an independent country needs thier head examined.
Feel free to examine mine. An IQ of 143 so don't count on finding anything wrong. You on the other hand would do better to read the history of our great nation and had it not been for religious reasons, the thousands of Scots who stood against their brothers would have instead, stood side by side against an invading army.
Well according to The Political Survey Test I should be voting for the Lib Dems and reading the Guardian.
So, if I did bother to vote, I'd probably be voting Lib Dem. However the likelihood of me bothering to are slim due to a) effort, b) the fact that all politicians are the same and most importantly c) they've supported lowering speed limits, it's getting ridiculous.
So, if I did bother to vote, I'd probably be voting Lib Dem. However the likelihood of me bothering to are slim due to a) effort, b) the fact that all politicians are the same and most importantly c) they've supported lowering speed limits, it's getting ridiculous.
Rubbish, the split was created long before by the lowland rulers wanting power and the highland rulers being in complete control.
England was a convenient ally for scottish lowland lords to finish off the highlanders power, I'm not sure it was even needed to be honest, perhaps for politcal reasons after the war was won, but not for military power I'm sure.
I'd suggest We'd be using candles for light and we'd still be in the EU, do you have any more solid basis for your predictions?
When they give me toe option to abstain I'll vote.
It's undemocratic to not allow my right to register my refusal to vote for any of them.
I think they should allow votes for no candidate, and in any seat where the votes for no candidate outstrip votes for any single candidate the seat is polled again.
Maybe then individual candidates will think twice about the party system and the party whip.
Otherwise to hell with candidates and lets go to proportional representation.
For the next dutch elections:
In here I'll be voting for the VVD, a lib-conservative party. Simply because I agree with them on most of the points.
The worst thing that could happen is if the socialists and the green party won and form a gov, luckily that's not likely to happen.
Hate the current center/christian and social democrat gov, keeps expending too much money and they're both retards if it comes to thinking about the further future. Rather than cutting costs in foreign aid or similar they instead want to increase the tax for high incomes
. They keep investing money they don't have making the public debt higher so eventually young people like me will have to pay off the debt.
Tbh, the entire political environment here sucks, there's the PVV, a very right wing conservative party ( they are too much anti Muslim, too much anti Europe, xenophobic tbh) , which will prolly get A LOT of votes soon and there's the people who usually vote social democrats ( labour party here) and are moving to the socialist party because they think the labour party is doing too little for poor people ( haven't they bloody learned from eastern Europe that socialism sucks *** and doesn't work at all, to add this party has seemed to take an anti Europe course and is quite uncooperative for Europe) annd because they're jealous of people who are doing better than them. There's the standard group of people who ALWAYS vote for the green party ( idiots, want a NSL of 48mph on the motorways, and are generally against capitalism) and ignore anything else. The liberals ( D66) are getting quite popular too but they are too progressive for my liking, they don't see things such as nuclear energy as an option and believe ''pay per mile'' for motorists will work and are generally too bureaucratic, trying to let the govt do too much.
Except the VVD (lib/con) i dislike all other party's really, they are all either too extreme, short sighted ( most of the left wing party's come from the urbanized western bit of the country, hell, 50% of all green party members come from bloody Amsterdam, no wonder they have no clue how to run the country, should come out of their urban shells and look how it is in the rest of the country before declaring war on everything related to capitalism ) , too positive ( by that I mean, they believe too much in plans that have serious financial or other risks of failing, often resulting in multi millions of Euros of ''unexpected'' bad news ) or just simply stupid uneducated people who don't think things over properly before shouting stuff ( eg. the PVV(cons.) who believe all Muslims are the axis of evil and want to get out of the EU altogether).
I'd love to move to the US tbh because the democrats there are about right compared to my political ideas ( although they could be a little bit more liberal, eg. not being arses to stuff like softdrugs, alcohol ( the age), etc...).
In here I'll be voting for the VVD, a lib-conservative party. Simply because I agree with them on most of the points.
The worst thing that could happen is if the socialists and the green party won and form a gov, luckily that's not likely to happen.
Hate the current center/christian and social democrat gov, keeps expending too much money and they're both retards if it comes to thinking about the further future. Rather than cutting costs in foreign aid or similar they instead want to increase the tax for high incomes
. They keep investing money they don't have making the public debt higher so eventually young people like me will have to pay off the debt.Tbh, the entire political environment here sucks, there's the PVV, a very right wing conservative party ( they are too much anti Muslim, too much anti Europe, xenophobic tbh) , which will prolly get A LOT of votes soon and there's the people who usually vote social democrats ( labour party here) and are moving to the socialist party because they think the labour party is doing too little for poor people ( haven't they bloody learned from eastern Europe that socialism sucks *** and doesn't work at all, to add this party has seemed to take an anti Europe course and is quite uncooperative for Europe) annd because they're jealous of people who are doing better than them. There's the standard group of people who ALWAYS vote for the green party ( idiots, want a NSL of 48mph on the motorways, and are generally against capitalism) and ignore anything else. The liberals ( D66) are getting quite popular too but they are too progressive for my liking, they don't see things such as nuclear energy as an option and believe ''pay per mile'' for motorists will work and are generally too bureaucratic, trying to let the govt do too much.
Except the VVD (lib/con) i dislike all other party's really, they are all either too extreme, short sighted ( most of the left wing party's come from the urbanized western bit of the country, hell, 50% of all green party members come from bloody Amsterdam, no wonder they have no clue how to run the country, should come out of their urban shells and look how it is in the rest of the country before declaring war on everything related to capitalism ) , too positive ( by that I mean, they believe too much in plans that have serious financial or other risks of failing, often resulting in multi millions of Euros of ''unexpected'' bad news ) or just simply stupid uneducated people who don't think things over properly before shouting stuff ( eg. the PVV(cons.) who believe all Muslims are the axis of evil and want to get out of the EU altogether).
I'd love to move to the US tbh because the democrats there are about right compared to my political ideas ( although they could be a little bit more liberal, eg. not being arses to stuff like softdrugs, alcohol ( the age), etc...).
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[QU OTE=Evangelion;14083875]The problem with the Tories is that they believe the government has the right to constantly interfere with industry and business. Indeed, it was their chronic addiction to such interference that precipitated the death of traditional British industries during the Thatcher regime.
Then there's their irresponsible borrowing and their class-driven politics (raiding working class pension funds and sabotaging essential services like education). Not a good combination.[/QUOTE]
to correct you, the main change the tories made was to stop propping up the nationalised industries, in other words, they stopped interfering...
Then there's their irresponsible borrowing and their class-driven politics (raiding working class pension funds and sabotaging essential services like education). Not a good combination.[/QUOTE]
to correct you, the main change the tories made was to stop propping up the nationalised industries, in other words, they stopped interfering...
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Personally I think the whole country should abstain from voting and show the MPs a vote of no confidence!
I'm being serious too. This expenses scandal is fraud, as simple as that.
All Parties have been involved in it, and to be totally honest my tiny bit of trust in ANY of them, whatever party, has been completly lost.
What's the point in voting for someone else when they are all exactly the same?!?
I'm being serious too. This expenses scandal is fraud, as simple as that.
All Parties have been involved in it, and to be totally honest my tiny bit of trust in ANY of them, whatever party, has been completly lost.
What's the point in voting for someone else when they are all exactly the same?!?
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I would normaly vote DUP but once they get away from the NI issue they are useless. I will give Alliance my vote for a while, can't do much harm thats not alrealy been done.
Privatising nationalised companies is interfering. Thatcher broke them up and sold them off to her cronies, who made a fortune by running them into the ground, jacking up prices, and cutting back services.
If that's not interference, what is?
It really is not interfering. It is quite the opposite, it is letting the market decide.
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As much as Labour annoy me I will never vote Conservative.
I just don't get it. Cameron is a toff, from a rich family and has never been through what 90% of the population has and simply doesn't understand or care.
All his cabinet went to Eton which says it all really. He is looking out for his fellow old money cronies. Keeping the money with them.
Even if I was a self made wealthy business man I wouldn't vote for him because of this. and as a working class I definitely will not.
I really think education is the key, and I really disagree with privatisation in this area, do we want kids from bad backgrounds getting an even worse education? Do you honestly think that will help or will it just be more money for the now privatised prisons?
Labour ain't perfect by a long shot but atleast they are human.
I just don't get it. Cameron is a toff, from a rich family and has never been through what 90% of the population has and simply doesn't understand or care.
All his cabinet went to Eton which says it all really. He is looking out for his fellow old money cronies. Keeping the money with them.
Even if I was a self made wealthy business man I wouldn't vote for him because of this. and as a working class I definitely will not.
I really think education is the key, and I really disagree with privatisation in this area, do we want kids from bad backgrounds getting an even worse education? Do you honestly think that will help or will it just be more money for the now privatised prisons?
Labour ain't perfect by a long shot but atleast they are human.
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the fact they were nationalised in the first place? they were all private originally