Death knell for hunting ban as police abandon monitoring operations

[arknor]

they arent going to be using the police for more things importaint since the reccesion crime levels are expected to rise by as much as 25% perecent do you really think we can just train 25% more police officers? no so they are ignoring the lesser crimes so they can go after the figure grabbing crimes like burglary.

its not just hunting that will be ignored

 

[Visionary]

One gets to live with a mutilated throat. The other dies very quickly. One is an unnatural process; the other is perfectly natural.

A fox will usually be well and truly dead by the time it's torn apart. And if it's not... well, that's nature's way.

What's unnatural about fishing?

 

[Sankari]

What's unnatural about fishing?

Where do you want to start? The use of man-made implements to catch and kill a fish in an unnatural way.

I don't see too many bears angling, do you?

 

[Visionary]

Where do you want to start? The use of man-made implements to catch and kill a fish in an unnatural way.

I don't see too many bears angling, do you?

So animals using rocks to crack open nuts etc. are acting unnaturally?

 

[Basher]

Dogs killing foxes might be natural but not in the way it is done these days.

How so?

 

[atpbx]

Where do you want to start? The use of man-made implements to catch and kill a fish in an unnatural way.

I don't see too many bears angling, do you?

No opposable thumbs dude.

 

[Visionary]

Where do you want to start? The use of man-made implements to catch and kill a fish in an unnatural way.

I don't see too many bears angling, do you?

Anyway, using your definition of 'natural' surely taking domesticated dogs into the countryside and sending them to hunt is unnatural too, the dogs wouldn't be their without human intervention, therefore it must be unnatural.

Lots of things are 'natural', it doesn't mean their right.

 

[McManicMan]

i agree that certain animals need culling and the like's, i just personally disagree with all the pompus tradition that surrounds it and using other animals to kill it.

 

[Tefal]

for every person who complains about cruelty to animals, i will go and torture 5 random animals for absolutely no reason whatsoever...[/I]

lol banned.

 

[Teki187]

Common sense at last. Good to see they are going to be using the Police for things that are more important.

Like stopping random people in London under the terrorism law

 

[RDM]

So animals using rocks to crack open nuts etc. are acting unnaturally?

The last time I checked rocks were not man made. Though I am sure you can get man made rocks these days that majority occur "naturally".

I think the real reason why people can object to fox hunting but not fishing is because foxes are cute and fury while no one loves the poor old fish. Hence why some "vegetarians" also eat fish!

 

[Sankari]

So animals using rocks to crack open nuts etc. are acting unnaturally?

No, that's perfectly natural.

What I mean is that the fish are being caught and killed in a way that does not occur in nature. Now, personally I don't have a problem with that.

But I do have a problem with people who want fox hunting banned on the grounds of cruelty despite the fact that it merely replicates an event which occurs naturally in the wild - particularly when the same people see nothing wrong with hook and line fishing, which does not occur naturally in the wild and is quite excruciatingly painful to the fish.

[QUOTEAnyway, using your definition of 'natural' surely taking domesticated dogs into the countryside and sending them to hunt is unnatural too, the dogs wouldn't be their without human intervention, therefore it must be unnatural.[/quote]

On the contrary, the dogs would be there if humans let them loose and refrained from interfering in their instinct-driven habits.

Even domesticated dogs will run off and harass sheep. It's perfectly natural; it's what nature tells them to do.

Lots of things are 'natural', it doesn't mean their right.

LOL? So now we want to ban animals from performing natural acts? What's next: instinct is illegal?

 

[Sankari]

No opposable thumbs dude.

It's not the only reason!

 

[Visionary]

LOL? So now we want to ban animals from performing natural acts? What's next: instinct is illegal?

Well yeah, kinda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens

 

[Guest2]

Common sense at last. Good to see they are going to be using the Police for things that are more important.

Like dressing up as prostitutes to catch curb crawlers, which also tries to stop a business that has been running hundreds, probably thousands of years

 

[starfighter]

I see it like this.

We need food to survive. Just do it in the least painful way possible and allow the animal to have a decent life, I am all about free range eggs and stuff but I ain't no veggie because we are meat eaters and It is hard to get all your nutrients from veg.

There is no reason to shoot animals other than pleasure (lets face it foxes are not taking over the England any time soon).

So don't do it unless you want me to shoot you for pleasure. (i know caring for other living things is rather odd around here but hey)


However if you were starving to death, bring it on and we will go for it. winner eats the other.

 

[Basher]

they arent going to be using the police for more things importaint since the reccesion crime levels are expected to rise by as much as 25% perecent do you really think we can just train 25% more police officers?

Which is why they are re-deploying those trained officers into more productive roles, surely?

 

[TommyTenToes]

Like stopping random people in London under the terrorism law

Yeah maybe they should stop trying to prevent terrorism and just sit back hoping it doesn't happen.

Get a grip, the stop checks are for the safety of the general public, I don't understand why people are so bothered by this unless they have something to hide!

 

[starfighter]

Yeah maybe they should stop trying to prevent terrorism and just sit back hoping it doesn't happen.

Get a grip, the stop checks are for the safety of the general public, I don't understand why people are so bothered by this unless they have something to hide!

Because 90% of people they arrest are innocent. Perhaps that suggests that they are abusing their powers and stopping people they don't like the look of or to make them look busy as opposed to actually fighting crime.

 

[Basher]

Because 90% of people they arrest are innocent.

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