Research? Have you seen a newspaper in the last 6 months?
Party manifestos are probably the most irrelevant factor in deciding how you should vote (in this particular election).
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Research? Have you seen a newspaper in the last 6 months?
Party manifestos are probably the most irrelevant factor in deciding how you should vote (in this particular election).
As far as I am aware the BNP don't have any MPs.
What would be the collective term for this then ?
A flock of racists ?
A rabble of racists ?
A murder of bigots ?
a mob of ignorant *****
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It's certainly not behaviour that I'd try to excuse and yes disregarding another nations sovereignty to kill its citizens is arguably worse but realistically neither position should be acceptable in a nominally civilised society. Pointing at the Governments "achievements" in invading Iraq and saying "but they've done worse than what we (the BNP) would like to do to our own citizens" is a terrible example of blame shifting and misdirection, it's right up there with "but he did it too miss".
Disagreeing with certain aspects of immigration doesn't need to be racist I'd agree although for many people I've met who are against it blindly there is a strong element of racism involved, even for some who are against it and can support their contentions with more than a smattering of evidence there is often an element of "we don't want their kind round here" if you dig further into the reasons but I accept the basic point that you don't need to be racist to be concerned.
Disagreeing with positive discrimination is fine too, although it may have served a purpose at some point in forcing employers to consider applicants that they otherwise would have rejected out of hand it doesn't appear to me to be something that should be left as a long term measure. The makeup of the workforce does not have to exactly mirror society but provided everyone who is capable of doing the job gets an equal opportunity to apply for it and be considered then that is all you can ask for.
Now onto same-sex adoption, as RDM asks what are the reasons for opposing it that don't relate to prejudice?
I'd hope they are, if children need adopted then surely we want the very best looking after them whether they be gay or straight and there is little to no point in using a gay couple in place of a heterosexual couple if they're not better. At the point where you're embarking on a new programme it is natural to use the highest quality available and the market of prospective gay adoptive parents is one that has been less utilised than that of heterosexual adoptive parents.
Yes, that was exactly my point. I wasn't giving a view on gay adoption just providing a possible explanation for the findings.
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As soon as I find a party that aligns to Social Anarchism I'll let you know 
BNP are the nearest at the moment but I disagree with their repatriation policies and it's too big an issue to look past.
BNP are the nearest at the moment but I disagree with their repatriation policies and it's too big an issue to look past.
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That's a Hitler like statement if ever I heard one, which is ironic in itself.
If that's not a joke you may want to give this some thought. How can both of those options have some appeal for you? I hope some of this BNP support is just online trolling because OcUK has never appeared to be a hotbed of racism and intollerance to me before.
Imprisoned is a bit strong, perhaps they should be made to have supper in the house of a black or asian british family where they can explain their rationale as part of the dinner table chat.
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That's like saying 37% of Germanys voting population agreed with the Nazi's and Hitlers final solution to the Jewish question.
Just because someone votes BNP doesn't make them a racist. You can agree and approve of some of their policies but disagree with some of the others. Just because you condone something doesn't mean you agree with it, although some people could argue that you're giving tacit approval of it.
It is tacit approval. Nobody can condone or overlook the BNP's views on race and repatriation without being either racist or totally unsympathetic regarding their fellow man. Wrap it up however you like but a BNP vote is a bigoted vote.
How can anyone of any background and of any income possibly vote in Labour? I find it amusing that the "lower class" so to speak have been much worse off since 1997 and the wealthiest tax payers have seen a boom in wealth.
At some point in their power they've screwed everyone over left, right and centre. They've completely and utterly made a mess of the economy. They've gone AGAINST the public opinion on countless decisions, highlights being ID cards and the Iraq war.
Tories for me as I can't see them doing any worse than Labour. Parties aside I also think Brown is a liar, he's deceitful, he's a nasty piece of work. I don't think anyone whether they're a dustbin man or CEO of HSBC can actually like or trust the man.
At some point in their power they've screwed everyone over left, right and centre. They've completely and utterly made a mess of the economy. They've gone AGAINST the public opinion on countless decisions, highlights being ID cards and the Iraq war.
Tories for me as I can't see them doing any worse than Labour. Parties aside I also think Brown is a liar, he's deceitful, he's a nasty piece of work. I don't think anyone whether they're a dustbin man or CEO of HSBC can actually like or trust the man.
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Ahahaha!
Really?!!
well alright, I've seen some intollerance but not regarding the big issues! May be I've read the wrong/right threads.
How so? I "lived through" the last conservative government and I'm not sure I understand your point.
I mean those who had a family/house and so on when they was in gov.
I still can remember the interest rates going up to 16%
lucky for me I sold my house just before it happend.
And the poor guys who committed suicide because of the CSA mistakes.
and one was a police officer.
And at sandvik halesowen a guy died on site(heart attack)
within 3 hours there was 100 people lineing up for his job.
I could go on all day.
terrible days it was like a nightmare.