MONACO Grand Prix 2009 - Race 6/17 Official GP Thread

Despite the fact that overtaking is nigh on impossible at Monaco, making it perhaps the most boring race on the F1 calendar there are some fascinating short videos at http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8055684.stm of earlier Monaco GPs from years gone by as far back as 1961 (Ferrari, Lotus, Porsche, Moss, Jim Clark, Brabham, McLaren, von Trips & pre-Bernie and Max).

1992 with Mansell & Senna is worth a watch, Schumacher's 1st lap crash in 1996 is a joy to behold and the "extended" videos are excellent as well :)

The frightfully BBC commentator on the 1961 race is Raymond Baxter of Tomorrow's World fame.
 
TV times:
MONTE CARLO - MONACO
Thursday 21 May
First practice: 0900-1000, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Second practice: 1300-1430, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Saturday 23 May
Third practice: 1000-1100, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Qualifying: 1210-1515, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Qualifying re-run: Times TBC, BBC Red Button

Sunday 24 May
Race: 1210-1515, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Race re-run: Times TBC, BBC Red Button

Interactive Forum: 1515-1615, BBC Red Button/online

Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/BBC Red Button/online
Standings:
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Track:
BBC Circuit Guide

Track Diagram
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Circuit information
Length: 3.34km
Race distance: 78 laps / 260.520km

Full throttle: 42%
Top speed: 286kph
Longest flat-out section: 8s / 510km
Right/left-hand turns: 12/7

Tyre wear: Medium
Brake wear: High
Downforce level: Very high
Gear changes per lap: 54

Strategy
Fuel use per lap: 1.723kg (source: Williams)
Pit lane time loss: 17.8s
2009 tyre compounds: soft (prime, no marking), super-soft (option, green markings)
2008 tyre compounds: soft (prime, no marking), super-soft (option, white markings)

Classic Monaco Grand Prix

Classic F1 - Monaco Grand Prix 1996
Watch highlights from the 1996 Monaco Grand Prix as only four cars finish the race with Ligier's Olivier Panis claiming his only F1 victory.

Classic F1 - Monaco Grand Prix 1982
Watch the BBC's "Grand Prix" from the 1982 Monaco race as Riccardo Patrese claims his first F1 win as a late-race rain shower causes havoc.

Classic F1 - Monaco Grand Prix 1961
Watch highlights from the 1961 Monaco Grand Prix as Stirling Moss holds off the Ferraris of Richie Ginther and Phill Hill to claim a stunning win.


Technical Changes - Spain

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News


  • Button braced for tough street fight
    Jenson Button believes his Brawn team won’t have an easy ride to another victory on the streets of Monte Carlo this weekend, predicting a fierce fight at the front from qualifying onwards.
  • McLaren expects stronger Monaco form
    McLaren has expressed confidence that its troublesome MP4-24 will be far more competitive on the twisty streets of Monaco next week than it was at the demanding Circuit de Catalunya.
  • Kimi: Podium back in sight for Ferrari
    Kimi Raikkonen believes Ferrari can realistically aim for a podium finish again from the Monaco Grand Prix following its big step forward in pace at Barcelona.
  • Vettel and Buemi wow 130,000 in Hungary
    Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel and Toro Rosso’s Sebastien Buemi proved to be a big draw in Hungary on Sunday, with over 130,000 spectators lining the banks of the Tisza River in the town of Szeged to catch a glimpse of the duo taking part in a demonstration run organised by the Austrian energy drink company.
  • Brawn: KERS installation a challenge
    Ross Brawn admits his team is finding it difficult to adapt its car to accommodate a kinetic energy recovery system.
News - 2010 Season
  • Bernie: Two tier rules now less likely
    Bernie Ecclestone believes the chances of Formula 1 running to two-tier regulations in 2010 have faded significantly even though no firm deal was reached in yesterday's crunch talks at Heathrow
  • Ferrari injunction verdict on Wednesday
    errari will learn whether it has succeeded in its bid to take out an injunction against the FIA’s 2010 regulations on Wednesday afternoon, a French court has announced.
  • Ferrari insists quit threat is serious
    Ferrari insists the ultimatum it has given the FIA is not posturing and it will “really and truly” pull out of Formula 1 at the end of the season if next year’s regulations are not changed.
  • Williams: Row close to resolution
    Sir Frank Williams reckons the row over the 2010 regulations is close to being resolved, despite the lack of agreement in Friday's meeting between FOTA and the FIA.
  • Lola gives green light to F1 entry plans
    Lola has confirmed it will lodge an entry for the 2010 world championship after completing its evaluation of the new regulations.
  • F3 team Litespeed to make 2010 bid
    British Formula 3 team Litespeed has revealed it will apply to become one of the 13 teams on the 2010 F1 grid and plans to run under the £40 million budget cap should its entry be accepted.
  • FIA/FOTA in talks over budget cap row
    The FIA and the Formula One Teams’ Association have been locked in talks this afternoon over the controversial 2010 regulations in a bid to stop the row spiralling further out of control.

The track and TV coverage starts

Technical changes Monaco
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Inside F1 - Monaco GP preview

Dan Walker is joined by John Watson to look ahead to the Monaco Grand Prix around the famous streets of Monte Carlo.


Practice 1
Replay - Monaco GP first practice
A full replay of the first practice session for this weekend's Monaco Grand Prix.
Highlights - Barrichello sets early Monaco pace
Brawn GP's Rubens Barrichello sets the fastest times in the first practice session for the Monaco Grand Prix, with Felipe Massa and Lewis Hamilton close behind.

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Practice 2
Replay - Monaco GP second practice
A full replay of the second practice session for this weekend's Monaco Grand Prix.
Highlights - Rosberg sets pace in Monaco
Nico Rosberg sets the fastest lap in the second practice session for the Monaco Grand Prix ahead of McLaren's Lewis Hamilton.
Awaiting Upload of second session
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Practice 3
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Qaulifying
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Fuel Loads
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Race
Highlights - Monaco Grand Prix
Jenson Button grabs his fifth win of 2009 ahead of Brawn team-mate Rubens Barrichello at the Monaco GP.

Drivers' news conference in full
Jenson Button praises his team following his impressive victory in the 2009 Monaco Grand Prix ahead of team-mate Rubens Barrichello and Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen.
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Replay - Monaco F1 forum
A full replay of the F1 forum as Jake Humphrey is joined by Eddie Jordan, David Coulthard and Martin Brundle to discuss all the action from the 2009 Monaco Grand Prix.

Standings
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I agree I don't think the Brawn is going to be too "hot" here. Their car is too easy on the tyres but at Monaco they're going to struggle to get the temps in a good range unless they do something funky with the setup.

I think McLaren will come alive here too. But I think RBR stand the best chance of a win.
 
I love the way the brawn car is full of these great little extra design features, like the low slung rear brake caliper, and now the steering column. Just shows they certainly aren't resting on their laurels.

And 7Kg weight saving :o

Wonder what the updates will be this weekend on the cars.
 
Vettel to win, Rubens 2nd, Button 3rd. Totally random prediction.

Im thinking Ferrari may do something "special" this weekend though (like both finish)....
 
I've been sat looking through all the F1 sites wondering why I can't find out what happenened in first practise..

Only to notice it is Wednesday :(
 
Well I knew Brawn were keeping things tight but a text message from my mate (on his way down to Monaco) just surprised me:
"Ross Brawn flies Easyjet. He's sat 3 rows behind me"
 
News just in....

Ferrari have been ruled against in their bid to gain an injunction against the FIA's budget cap.

So thats Ferrari out of F1 in 2010 then.
 
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News just in....

Ferrari have been ruled against in their bid to gain an injunction against the FIA's budget cap.

So thats Ferrari out of F1 in 2010 then.

/awaits the explosion of joy from the usual crew

Hey ho. If they do decide not to enter, then so be it. If they back down, then I'll still be supporting them come next season (though I might have to stay away from F1 threads if you lot are going to gloat ;)).
 
/awaits the explosion of joy from the usual crew

Hey ho. If they do decide not to enter, then so be it. If they back down, then I'll still be supporting them come next season (though I might have to stay away from F1 threads if you lot are going to gloat ;)).

It's nothing to do with gloating..... it's to do with Ferrari should not be able to hold the entire world to ransom.....

GOod decision, but I'd not like to see Ferrari leave F1. Much as I do not like their current (for the last decade) team ethos etc.

As the court said, Ferrari's veto is NOT valid.
 
That would be pretty cool. Not going to hold my breath though!

I'd love to see a Ferrari prototype racing against the four ringed beast, Aston Martin, Creation and Peugoat *amongst others*

They would have to enter the prototype class rather than the wussie GT classes though.
 
If the two tier rules are that stacked against 'rich' teams why don't Ferrari enter a budget F1 team and spend the rest of their money on Le Mans or something.

Maybe they aren't interested in F1 on a level playing field?
 
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