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mattheman said:
you just dont get it do you.
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Not at all.

You obviously don't know the BNP's stance on "racial foreigners", and are not capable of clearly articulating any form of justification for it.

The original point we were debating was whether the BNP would attempt to repatriate Black/asian British citizens. You denied this, I showed you evidence to the contrary. You haven't been able to explain it away yet...
 
Tefal said:
So you can trace your family back lets say 10 thousand years?

Not one Roman solider, not a single French frog, no Teutonic kings in your family past?
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There's fairly strong evidence showing that humans didn't live in Europe until relatively recently in the big picture of human existence. So, don't worry, we're all foreign if we view it that way.
 
Inquisitor said:
My family may well have originated in Holland for all I know. In fact, my surname doesn't sound that English, so there's probably a point at some point in my family history at which they were immigrants. Does this mean I'm not a native Briton?

Say your family line goes back to the French before William's invasion of 1066. Are you then not a native Briton?

If you go back that far, national identity has no meaning any more. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense.
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no your not, you need to know that the BNP will not kick out british citizens just residents 2 different things.
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
No, but then most muslims aren't extremists who'd advocate terrorist attacks, whereas most BNP supporters seem to feel the colour of your skin dteermines whether you can be classed as British or 'repatriated', as shown by the BNP supporters in this thread...
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lol rubbish, i have spoken about residents and citizens. i didnt start the thing about color, the anti bnp crew have. like most anti bnp individuals they dont understand the difference between race native resident and citizen.
 
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Streeteh said:
There's fairly strong evidence showing that humans didn't live in Europe until relatively recently in the big picture of human existence. So, don't worry, we're all foreign if we view it that way.
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Forget about that, I'm waiting for DD to post one of the most complete genealogies ever made it will be one of the greatest historical finds in the last century!
 
mattheman said:
no your not, you need to know that the BNP will not kick out british citizens just residents 2 different things.
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Have you ignored everything I've said over the past 2 pages?

The BNP says that Black Britons [read: Black citizens] don't exist, and should be called "foreign residents".

So they DO want to repatriate them.
 
dirtydog said:
Never.
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What is the cut off point then? Presumably there must be a line drawn in the sand to say if you can trace your family back to this specific year then you can claim to be British, if you can't then you will never be British? Does the year move as time advances or is the date unchanging?

mattheman said:
many factors not just colour of skin.
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Would you care to articulate them? I don't believe I've ever heard a definition that does not rely on arbitrary factors somewhere along the line.
 
Tefal said:
So you can trace your family back lets say 10 thousand years?

Not one Roman solider, not a single French frog, no Teutonic kings in your family past?

Wow you must have amazing records to be sure you're British. I mean you really should submit them to a university that would be one of the best historical record around.
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you miss the point, its about the skin colour, nothing else...
 
Dolph said:
you miss the point, its about the skin colour, nothing else...
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Noit according to DD it's any ancestor who's not from Britain not just non whites.

Arn't you excited Dolph we're about to see a full history of a British family right back to the very first human that evolved in Britain!


Truly a historic day!
 
mattheman said:
no your not, you need to know that the BNP will not kick out british citizens just residents 2 different things.
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Ahahahahaha. I'm not a British citizen because there's some remote point in my family history – maybe 500 years ago for all I know – that brings in foreign blood? You can't be serious.
 
p4radox said:
You didn't answer the question.

And how long does a family have to live and reproduce in Britain before it qualifies as "native"?
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Think of it like this.

The indians in america are Native, every one else is a citizen of the usa.
Like me I am Native to UK(trace back to 500ad scotland) but in the USA I am a immigrant.
 
race2 definition
race (rās)

noun

any of the different varieties or populations of human beings distinguished by a) physical traits such as hair, eyes, skin color, body shape, etc.: traditionally, the three primary divisions are Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid, although many subdivisions of these are also called racesb) blood types c) genetic code patterns d) all their inherited characteristics which are unique to their isolated breeding population
 
Inquisitor said:
Ahahahahaha. I'm not a British citizen because there's some remote point in my family history – maybe 500 years ago for all I know – that brings in foreign blood? You can't be serious.
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you are a british citizen if you have a british passport or registered, you are not a native brit.
 
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