TF2 Sniper Update

The only way trading would work is if lots of people didnt have the old unlocks, such as new people to the game. The problem is them new people can quite easily get on an acheivment server and quickly get all the standard unlocks that way.

If they removed achievment unlocks then trading would have a bit more value, but the majority already have old unlocks anyway.
 
well tbh im getting stuff less frequently than i would have through the achievement system, ie nothing, to the point of frustration
 
Ive still yet to find anything, and ive been playing solidly since the update. This is the single worst thing valve have ever done. I've opened up 30 achievements since the update, so i would have had 3 unlocks by now, but instead people who are AFK in the spawn area get 2 in half an hour.
 
That's called "everyone is playing spy" syndrome.

Got actually called both a hacker and a cheat on a few games today as I played pyro and kept lighting spies all over the place. Just love noob spies

Speaking of noob spies, I got cloak and dagger ( about 5hrs of play since changes ), tried it, seems pretty good, I'm pretty rubbish spy so will keep on playing pyro and burning away !
 
Its a simple case of, why fix it when it aint broke.

TF2 was perfectly fine before all this!

Why oh why did they have to medle with this once great game.

For me TF2 has become bloated and over complicated.
 
oh my word!

36 hours of almost solid play and i got my first unlock!

Natascha! Which i got about an hour after the Heavy update was released! 28 years ago!

Hooray!
 
Just got the huntsman... but I want cloak and dagger :(

Swapsies?

I'm not a huge fan of the game i just want to try these things out, back in ye old days 2 minutes in my good friend achievement manager and i'd be on my way.

They said they didn't want people playing on achievement servers now they have forced people to sit on their own and idle for hours on end :/
 
I'm going to say I like it but only because I didn't play enough to unlock the better weapons through achievements.

Well you would Skip, you've unlocked loads of stuff with this new system :p

Some of us have had next to nothing, I've only got the Force o' Nature so far
 
Does this game require much Teamwork or have I just been playing on the wrong servers?

I get the impression teamwork is not essential or have I not been playing it right or not with the right people?
 
Swapsies?

I'm not a huge fan of the game i just want to try these things out, back in ye old days 2 minutes in my good friend achievement manager and i'd be on my way.

They said they didn't want people playing on achievement servers now they have forced people to sit on their own and idle for hours on end :/

When trades are available I'll happily swap :)
 
I think the drop system would be fine, if it was used in the right circumstances.

For weapons unlocks I prefer the achievements to unlock them. But I think the drop system would be great for the hats and other bits and bobs that they plan on adding.
 
I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of the unlocks.

Here's a pro-tip: You're still playing the same game you were presumably enjoying before the update/unlock change came out. If you still mained Soldier, Demo or whatever before the update - guess what, they're still in the game and they still play the same as before.

People saying about how the game is suddenly "ruined" or "unplayable" or whatever when something is added to classes they don't even play (or play competently) just boggles the mind.

Sniper and Spy require an above-average level of skill (particularly Spy imo), if you sucked at playing either of them before the update you're still going to be mediocre with them with the new unlocks.
 
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