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The French being asked to take over the British role in Afganistan, due to their snob of the British?
France to honour American involvement in D-day 65th anniversary... but...
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The French being asked to take over the British role in Afganistan, due to their snob of the British?
guessing he's talking about the american civial wars etc?
Well, that's not what you said originally.
Perhaps we should ask the Yanks to take over everyone's role, since they seem to believe that they're God's gift to the universe. I wonder how they'd feel about that.
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It's been this way for quite a while with French feelings toward British veterens ranging from 'what took you so long' to 'you abandoned us'. They have also not fully forgiven Britian for the sinking of the Vichy Frech Fleet at Mers-el-Kebir which was feared would fall into the hands of the Germans.
Nice anti French jingo you have going there. And you lot claim to be "educated" ? HA.
Just because the President of France is a no swearing, very much like our own Mr. G.Brown, it does not mean for one minute, the general population is in agreement.
I am English and live in SW France(Pyrenees) and the people here care very much about the War and those involved in liberating their country. There are numerous memorials around here to British, American, French, Canadian, soldiers who died trying to help them. Allied troops were parachuted into this very mountainous region to support the French maquis(resistance) in the area. Many died.
This isn't Wiki ****** either. Memorials are everywhere and they are maintained to a higher standard than many back home.
Wise up, wise guy's. You're making yourselves look ignorant.
Just because the President of France is a no swearing, very much like our own Mr. G.Brown, it does not mean for one minute, the general population is in agreement.
I am English and live in SW France(Pyrenees) and the people here care very much about the War and those involved in liberating their country. There are numerous memorials around here to British, American, French, Canadian, soldiers who died trying to help them. Allied troops were parachuted into this very mountainous region to support the French maquis(resistance) in the area. Many died.
This isn't Wiki ****** either. Memorials are everywhere and they are maintained to a higher standard than many back home.
Wise up, wise guy's. You're making yourselves look ignorant.
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yes, the french HEAVILY supported the american's gain independance from a ruling british essentially, occupation. But they've won multiple other wars.
But as said, they aren't doing something special for Obama for the sake of it, Obama will be there already, on a day they would have some rememberance services anyway so they are doing something to commemorate the american involvement. if the Queen was going to be there for some other meeting, then it would have been something to remember british involvement, if the Aussie PM was in france for some reason, it would have been for Aussie.
Its just pathetic, at the end of the day it costs real money earned by real people to throw these shindigs, inviting all and sundry so as not to offend anyone is ridiculous.
Ok so we invite the queen, because Britian were heavily involved in the war, where does it end, Belgium, Scotland who played a key part in the build up to D-Day and diverting Germany's attention, what about someone whose related to Hitler, because his screw up's that day allowed the invasion to succeed, or one of the hundred other countries involved in some way or another inbetween the extreme's. AT the end of the day, you could have a special visit from a foreign dignitory to remember every single event in history going back thousands of years, eventually you have to realise, theres better things to do. AT which anniversary do you stop visiting france every year, at which time do you stop visiting every 5 years, when is 10 years to close between visits, what about every 50th, the 100th, the 150, the 200, which one becomes less important. In reality, none of them are important, at all.
i for one don't want to see my tax going on security for the queen to remember publically , something she can remember every day anyway. Her feelings and her rememberance or feelings of pride for what her countrymen did don't change based on how publically she express's them.
Not to mention its not getting embarassing and a little cringeworthy bringing out the last of the survivors in wheelchairs looking like they are uncomftable and ill and shouldn't actually be there.
then theres the fact that every time we remember, we also remember the things that separate, and the hatred people had for each other.
Read the whole thread mate, theres a number of people who've said the same as you earlier on.
Oh just the ONE war then
But hold on they did win the Napoleonic wars, but we kicked his ass after
They won their own revolution,The War of The European Union Agricultural Subsidy
The french beat us in the ols USA with the help of ANZAC, America, and Russia
with out them they would have lost AGAIN.
Other then going back before BC can't think of any more.
LETS HERE IT FOR THE FRENCH ......
Im saddened by your posts Drunkenmaster. Real people died so you could be free to post bull**** like that. It angers me a lot, maybe because some of my family died in WW2.
We remember the past so we dont make the same mistake in the future.
Maybe you don't want your tax money being spent on security, just like I don't want my tax money to be spent on illegal immigrants, but it happens and I have to put up with it.
If you are so embarrassed by the people who fought for your right to be a knob, then maybe you don't deserve to even be alive. You disgust me.
We remember the past so we dont make the same mistake in the future.
Maybe you don't want your tax money being spent on security, just like I don't want my tax money to be spent on illegal immigrants, but it happens and I have to put up with it.
If you are so embarrassed by the people who fought for your right to be a knob, then maybe you don't deserve to even be alive. You disgust me.
I've read the whole thread "mate" and my comments were aimed squarely at the majority of dummies who spout anti French claptrap.
I thought that was obvious.
Chillout it's just a figure of speech, and considering there have been a good few posts agreeing with some of the points you've made, it seems like you'd not read the whole thing.
The issue is with Sarkozy. He's trying to put a political spin on Obama's little visit. The Royal Family aren't invited because it would distract attention and TV cameras. I'm sure if Obama makes a small speech he will soon put things straight regarding it not just being the Americans that were involved in D-Day and that will rile Sarkozy's stupid attempt at rewriting the history books. To be fair though, historically, it is the yanks that more frequently attempt this - or at least their Hollywood does
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oh and those guys in wheelchairs you are so embarrassed about are there because they want to be and wouldn't have it any other way.
Completely disagree. I also had family members die in WW2. Yes we should remember the past, not dwell on it. I don't want my tax money spent on extra security just so some members of the royal family get an extra excursion this year. There's no real need for it.
I'm sure anyone who wants to attend would be more than welcome to just turn up to pay their respects.
Disagree with that bit too...
But agree with that.
I prefer to look at it as those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
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If you span back far enough France had as many colonies and influence around the world as the UK. Heck the first british king was a frog (to a certain extent 
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There will always be a love/hate thing. Ultimately, the UK couldn't do without France and France couldn't do without the UK throughout history.
)!There will always be a love/hate thing. Ultimately, the UK couldn't do without France and France couldn't do without the UK throughout history.
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Agreed with your disagreement with mejinks and your agreements/disagreements of those bits in DM's posts.
Its slightly different for the Queen though as its not protocol to just turn up at these things, even if she wanted to. Nobody gives a flying figleaf about Gordon Brown turning up because its not Gordon Brown that the soldiers fight for, it the crown.
I've been going to France on holiday for more years than some of you have been alive. In a number of towns and villages, there are memorials to the brave sacrifice given by a lot of countries, not just that of Great Britain. In fact on occasion, we were invited by the Mayor to have dinner at his table on "Heros day" where they remembered and celebrated what had been done for them by many nations.
I noticed more and more though, that the English flag was disappearing from a lot of memorials the further South we went, but even if those towns don't want to admit the fact that Great Britain was involved, there is no getting away from the fact.
Anyway, I digress. I find some comments here offensive and repulsive and would expect no better from trolls. Only they seem to be coming from established posters.
Do you have no national pride? Is money more important to you?
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