The manager merry go round starts early.
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There was good comment on the BBC article about Ancelotti's appointment, where someone had said he won't be judged on his first season, or even his first six months, but inevitably, his first few games. Unless Abramovic is now ready to invest in players again too, I can see it being a struggle in the market for them.
Also, what does it say about Celtic that they're having to reach down to unpromoted Championship sides for their next manager? Even supposed fans, managing Premiership minnows and relegation favourites, aren't interested.
Also, what does it say about Celtic that they're having to reach down to unpromoted Championship sides for their next manager? Even supposed fans, managing Premiership minnows and relegation favourites, aren't interested.
Quoting once more for sheer hilarity.unless im missing something Ancelotti is ermmm Italian and not latin in any way, shape or form.
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Surely Strachan was a manager of a premiership minnow/relegation favourite for many years, he was looking for a different job and went and took one. Burnley manager has a job, just got promoted and isn't looking to bail is he. He's got his own team, money to spend, and little pressure as most people will assume they'll be relegated, while Celtic are big budget, huge pressure and if he doesn't win the league he'll have to resign/quit.
But also remember that at the end of the day its a job, and his passion is Celtic, if he failed the club he loves, well its almost unthinkable so theres not really a huge amount of positives to take him there.
As for Ambramovich, people are jumping to conclusions about his lack of patience. HIddink showed the problem, managers after Mourinho had inherited a incredibly defensively minded team with few attacking options. Grant, Scolari, even Hiddink aren't really the managers for a defensive team, while Hiddink showed what he could get defensively against Barca, its not really his style and, he has a job.
Ancelotti is a much smarter appointment, a manager from a league thats more defensive in nature, someone who can work better with the current squad. Scolari in theory was a great appointment, but in reality he's had a team thats picked itself for brazil and required no motivation or teaching, club footie is completely different.
But it was clear where the economy was going while Grant/Scolari were there, he couldn't invest as he didn't know that he could afford it. AS the markets semi stabilising again, people are clearly on whats happening and chances of him investing are higher.
will help that Hiddink will tell him to spend no doubt, Hiddink's smart enough to realise they need wingers and a striker, will tell Roman, and he'll get his chequebook out. Lets also not forget that for 3 years Mourinho spunked hundreds of millions on players who aren't even at the club anymore, let alone those that Chelsea are stuck paying huge wages too still(kalou, Malouda, lost huge money on cocaine guy whose name I forget). he's got a incredibly weak squad for the cash spent and surely anyone in their right mind would want to find the right manager/team before spending again.
But also remember that at the end of the day its a job, and his passion is Celtic, if he failed the club he loves, well its almost unthinkable so theres not really a huge amount of positives to take him there.
As for Ambramovich, people are jumping to conclusions about his lack of patience. HIddink showed the problem, managers after Mourinho had inherited a incredibly defensively minded team with few attacking options. Grant, Scolari, even Hiddink aren't really the managers for a defensive team, while Hiddink showed what he could get defensively against Barca, its not really his style and, he has a job.
Ancelotti is a much smarter appointment, a manager from a league thats more defensive in nature, someone who can work better with the current squad. Scolari in theory was a great appointment, but in reality he's had a team thats picked itself for brazil and required no motivation or teaching, club footie is completely different.
But it was clear where the economy was going while Grant/Scolari were there, he couldn't invest as he didn't know that he could afford it. AS the markets semi stabilising again, people are clearly on whats happening and chances of him investing are higher.
will help that Hiddink will tell him to spend no doubt, Hiddink's smart enough to realise they need wingers and a striker, will tell Roman, and he'll get his chequebook out. Lets also not forget that for 3 years Mourinho spunked hundreds of millions on players who aren't even at the club anymore, let alone those that Chelsea are stuck paying huge wages too still(kalou, Malouda, lost huge money on cocaine guy whose name I forget). he's got a incredibly weak squad for the cash spent and surely anyone in their right mind would want to find the right manager/team before spending again.
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Surely he'd fit right in at Chelsea then?
To be fair to Spawn, 'Latin' can be interpreted in a few different ways and I'd be inclined to say the link between the word 'Latin' and Italy is diminishing. It seems more natural to use the word in reference to Latin America.
Anyway if you wanted the use the most strict definition you'd all be wrong and Spawn would be right, Ancelotti isn't from Latium (although he is Italian).
Anyway if you wanted the use the most strict definition you'd all be wrong and Spawn would be right, Ancelotti isn't from Latium (although he is Italian).
P.Cech
A.Cole
J.Terry
R.Carvalho
j.Bosingwa
J.Cole
O.Mikel
M.Essien
F.Lampard
F.Malouda
D.Drogba
That sure is one 'weak' squad
For me it's the best defense in the world.
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Chelsea could do SO much more with that squad...i always shudder when i see it as its almost a 'dream team' in my eyes. However, most are aging players and they are running out of time so to speak. Chelsea are honestly in their peak and have been extremely unlucky recently and a part of me feels sorry for them! 
Cech, 27
Cole, 28
Terry, 28,
Carvalho, 31
Cole, 27
Mikel, 22
Essien, 26
Lampard, 30
Malouda, 28
Drogba, 31
Never realised how many were over 26, hm.
Cech, 27
Cole, 28
Terry, 28,
Carvalho, 31
Cole, 27
Mikel, 22
Essien, 26
Lampard, 30
Malouda, 28
Drogba, 31
Never realised how many were over 26, hm.
Cech is young for a top goalkeeper, he's a decade in him yet.
Cole will be good for 3 or 4 more seasons at least.
Tery will be able to carry on his playing level for longer than Cole as he relies less on speed.
Carvalho doesn't have many seasons left at the top IMO.
Joe Cole never relied on speed and should be able to keep at the level he is at for a few more seasons.
Mikel needs to improve and has time to do it.
Essien is at the top of his game, and has plenty of time left to him.
Lampard has 2 or 3 top seasons left.
Malouda, older than I thought, he's too raw still. Done quite well this season but needs competition.
Drogba, should still be able to play the same game in 3 or 4 seasons time, as he doesn't rely on pace either.
Only your pacy players start to drop off when they hit 30. Look at Sheringham. Never had any pace, so never had to deal with losing it.
Cole will be good for 3 or 4 more seasons at least.
Tery will be able to carry on his playing level for longer than Cole as he relies less on speed.
Carvalho doesn't have many seasons left at the top IMO.
Joe Cole never relied on speed and should be able to keep at the level he is at for a few more seasons.
Mikel needs to improve and has time to do it.
Essien is at the top of his game, and has plenty of time left to him.
Lampard has 2 or 3 top seasons left.
Malouda, older than I thought, he's too raw still. Done quite well this season but needs competition.
Drogba, should still be able to play the same game in 3 or 4 seasons time, as he doesn't rely on pace either.
Only your pacy players start to drop off when they hit 30. Look at Sheringham. Never had any pace, so never had to deal with losing it.
Out of that list Carvalho's the most likely to get sold, he's injured far too often now.
Wouldn't be surprised if Drogba and Malouda went too.
Then there's P. Ferreira, Deco, Hilario, Miniero and Quaresma who should be off the wage bill and Kalou and Belletti could join them.
That's 5-10 squad places up for grabs, hopefully a few of the reserves will get promoted as there's some great talent there.
Wouldn't be surprised if Drogba and Malouda went too.
Then there's P. Ferreira, Deco, Hilario, Miniero and Quaresma who should be off the wage bill and Kalou and Belletti could join them.
That's 5-10 squad places up for grabs, hopefully a few of the reserves will get promoted as there's some great talent there.
I like him, great manager and he should do a lot better than Ramos
P.Cech
A.Cole
J.Terry
R.Carvalho
j.Bosingwa
J.Cole
O.Mikel
M.Essien
F.Lampard
F.Malouda
D.Drogba
That sure is one 'weak' squad
For me it's the best defense in the world.
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Great first 11, but I don't think Drunkenmaster was disputing that.
was about to post exactly the same thing but refreshed and you did it for me
Unless Kalou pulls something out of the bag this season, he's gone... I wanted to believe in him so much, then thought of him as a possible super sub; but now it just seems he's just there and not doing much.
Malouda and Drogba shown they're still useful and I think they need to show it this season to provide enough proof that they warrent their salary (Malouda has been something else since Guss has come, so hopefully he'll continue).
We have Zirkov now and he'll be fighting for any place on the left, Ivanovic fighting for RB and CB, Mancienne for CB. Either way it will be interesting season (as always) and we've got enough young players and money to give any of the first team players who aren't part of the core, a good poke up the bum with a red hot poker; and, have enough time to get suitable reps for some of the golden oldies - Jeezzzz I'm 25 and to think 30 is old makes me cry
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lol, same here. am 28 an keep sayin we need some young un's in our team. then again, anythings an improvement over last season.
keep shearer and start from scratch. we might even come straight back up!!!
keep shearer and start from scratch. we might even come straight back up!!!
To be fair to Spawn, 'Latin' can be interpreted in a few different ways and I'd be inclined to say the link between the word 'Latin' and Italy is diminishing. It seems more natural to use the word in reference to Latin America.
Anyway if you wanted the use the most strict definition you'd all be wrong and Spawn would be right, Ancelotti isn't from Latium (although he is Italian).
Thank you
...as far as im concerned when someone says latin im thinking of South America, cuba and those sorts of areas...ive never known an italian to be regarded as latin...if so then ive learnt something new
.Spawn not shown up again yet then?
Awww Gilly did u miss me??...
Hohohohohhahahahahahah
Thought u were taking a break from SA??, seeing as Cheets64 was winding you up and you couldnt take it
wonder if he meant directly after Keane - rather than one manager inbetween
Anyway - that was also before Wigan sold /agreed to sell his two best players in the team from under him
Chelsea have probably the best 1st XI in the country - malouda probably being the only real weak link (Mikel could be considered a reasonably weak link but considering where he plays and the players surrounding him, its not too much of a weakness)
Cech needs to get a bit of confidence back -hasnt really been the same since his injuries (no blame attached at all - as one was particularly nasty), still dont think he should have been given special dispensation to wear that headgear but thats old news - he can still be a top notch stopper for a number of years.
With a few of the highly rated kids in the squad to get experience (Carling Cup and maybe a few home games in EPL / early FA Cup) its the rest of the squad that needs a bit of quality as stated
Essien and Joe Cole where huge misses for most of the 08/09 season
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