diesel vs petrol power

Apologies. I get annoyed when people don't read a post properly.

A Focus RS would destroy a 182, so what's your point?
 
9.6s is well off the mark. Autocar got under 8 seconds on their long termer. A good PD130 when run in puts out 140+bhp.
 
A Fiesta ST can do that in the same time, so what are all these extra torks doing? Both have similar bhp, the Fabia has loads more tork but is no faster. Can diesel fanboy club explain this for me.
 
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I can overtake slower traffic in my 1.4 Fiesta, you don't need epic torque for that. As for economy, not always the top of the list on a typical hot hatch buyers checklist.

Diesel wins on economy but this is know fact, it offers no other advantage in my eyes. I mean a Fabia vRS would make sense if you do mega mileage but then again who does mega mileage in a small hatch?
 
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Grow up? Isn't calling a 130bhp Skoda 'brutal' a little bit ridiculous?

It is when it's taken out of context and pasted up everywhere.

Can you actually structure an argument properly without resorting to this kinda thing?
 
Resorting to what and what have I taken out of context? I am directly quoting you and I have given a good arguement but I am met with a brickwall of ignoroce.
 
"Epic Torque" helps make overtaking safer. I can just press and go, while you're faffing around trying to find the correct gear.

I get the mileage arguments with Diesels. I ordered mine when I was doing 30-35k a year, then just before the car turned up I changed jobs so I'm now doing about 4k a year as I walk to work. There is no petrol equivalent to the Fabia RS. If they had offered a say a 1.8T petrol then I would have considered it instead.

Mega mileage in my Fabia wouldn't bother me in the slightest. It's quiet and comfortable and a pleasure on long journeys. Having driven the non RS models I wouldn't dream of doing the same in a 1.4.
 
Resorting to what and what have I taken out of context? I am directly quoting you and I have given a good arguement but I am met with a brickwall of ignoroce.

Resorting to bringing in my comments from a closed thread to support your inane arguments against another member.

Then again i've seen this from you before, so I guess I should have expected it.

I quite clearly stated that it was in relation to other cars I have driven, which is quite a short list. How am I not expected to find it "brutal" when all I have to compare it to is a 100BHP variant of the same engine?
 
Faffing around? Takes a second for me to drop a cog if needed. You're telling me you've never needed to go down a gear to overtake?

A 130bhp engine is not brutal in relation to a 100bhp engine. The word brutal should be reserved for 500bhp Mustangs not for diesel hatchbacks.
 
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Faffing around? Takes a second for me to drop a cog if needed. You're telling me you've never needed to go down a gear to overtake?

A 130bhp engine is not brutal in relation to a 100bhp engine. The word brutal should be reserved for 500bhp Mustangs not for diesel hatchbacks.

I thought it was "brutal" so I said it.

You're entitled to your opinion but i'd be grateful if you didn't belittle me for trying to form my own.

At least i'm attempting to figure out which would be the best, rather than become one of the sheep who just do what they're told.
 
If you find it that brutal than I strongly suggest you never drive anything more powerful as you'll probably hnnnnnnnnnnggg and then go into a ditch. I'm not trying to belittle you, I just genuinely believe you don't know what a brutal car is.

Who's the sheep? Are you one of these people who deliberately go out of the norm? I'd give any car a try, I'm just finding some arguements ridiculous.
 
If you find it that brutal than I strongly suggest you never drive anything more powerful as you'll probably hnnnnnnnnnnggg and then go into a ditch. I'm not trying to belittle you, I just genuinely believe you don't know what a brutal car is.

Who's the sheep? Are you one of these people who deliberately go out of the norm? I'd give any car a try, I'm just finding some arguements ridiculous.

I'm just saying, that trying both petrol and diesel cars are forming an opinion based on your driving style is the best way to go.

I expect a lot of people just hear the rubbish that diesels are all noisy and smelly and automatically select a petrol on the back of that, when it's just plain untrue.
 
I expect a lot of people just hear the rubbish that diesels are all noisy and smelly and automatically select a petrol on the back of that, when it's just plain untrue.

On the contrary it's more likely the case that people automatically select a diesel for 'cheap running costs' and ignore the petrol on the back of that.
 
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