Six Scotland Yard officers are accused of 'waterboarding' drug suspects

They're not just making it up to big themselves up.

"Home Office estimates put the harm caused by Class A drugs at around £13bn a year. This largely arises from the profits from sales, the crimes addicts commit to fund their habit, and the damage caused to family life and communities, as well as from costs to addicts' health."

Make it legal and that drops aswell, whats the point of stealing when you get it free.
 
They're not just making it up to big themselves up.

"Home Office estimates put the harm caused by Class A drugs at around £13bn a year. This largely arises from the profits from sales, the crimes addicts commit to fund their habit, and the damage caused to family life and communities, as well as from costs to addicts' health."


So not terrorism, as the Government would have us believe. Facebook tracking the drug dealers, don't think so.
 
Make it legal and that drops aswell, whats the point of stealing when you get it free.

Then what do you do with the thousands that are whacked off their arses all day, suffering from the physical and mental consiquences and unable to work? Making it easier to get will make the problem worse not better.

A better idea would be to improve rehabilitation services for users.

PK!
 
Theft, murder, rape, vandalism, fraud, gordon brown etc, you know one of those crimes where there's an actual victim, not someone getting high at the weekend and not hurting anyone else but themselves.
It's not the recreational drug users that are the problem is it. Jesus.
 
I don’t know weather or not to laugh or cry at this comment. How do you think the serious and organised crime organisations make most of their money? Criminality is funded in large by the illegal drug trade. Yea ok a few mates going out at the weekend and popping a few pills in a club is no big deal but you have to look at the bigger picture and see the way that is funding criminality, it doesn’t just end at the mate that can get you drugs, there is a line that can be traced all the way to the top.

I can’t even be bothered getting into the problems caused by the more addictive substances such as heroin and the crime that results from addicts trying to fund their habits. I deal with that sort of thing day in day out and for you to turn round and say drugs aren’t really crime is just frankly ridiculous.
 
Then what do you do with the thousands that are whacked off their arses all day, suffering from the physical and mental consiquences and unable to work? Making it easier to get will make the problem worse not better.

A better idea would be to improve rehabilitation services for users.

PK!

What about the crime they cause and eveything else related to it, how do you think terrorists and other groups get the cash from to buy weapons etc..
by selling drugs.
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Personally I would rather see most of the non-addictive drugs legalised. Crackdowns have been proven time and again to affect the purity of the supply and do absolutely zilch for the availablity. When opiates were outlawed in the UK we had c. 500 addicts, of which the police knew nearly all of.

Then what do you do with the thousands that are whacked off their arses all day, suffering from the physical and mental consiquences and unable to work? Making it easier to get will make the problem worse not better.

PK!

Not quite born out by what happened in Switzerland when addicts got pharmaceutical heroin and were able to work or carry on working. Granted there is a slightly more British problem to ours, like getting people working.
 
I don’t know weather or not to laugh or cry at this comment. How do you think the serious and organised crime organisations make most of their money? Criminality is funded in large by the illegal drug trade. Yea ok a few mates going out at the weekend and popping a few pills in a club is no big deal but you have to look at the bigger picture and see the way that is funding criminality, it doesn’t just end at the mate that can get you drugs, there is a line that can be traced all the way to the top.

I can’t even be bothered getting into the problems caused by the more addictive substances such as heroin and the crime that results from addicts trying to fund their habits. I deal with that sort of thing day in day out and for you to turn round and say drugs aren’t really crime is just frankly ridiculous.

finally, some sense in this thread.

anyone 'pro drugs' is pretty retarded tbh
 
I can't believe this thread. Someone posts a story that the U.K. police have been accused of using torture in the U.K., and no-one has batted an eye lid. Instead, you're having a retarded argument about legalising all drugs.

That's never going to happen and therefore the police slowly turning into the Gestapo is much more important.
 
C'mon Boris, you got rid of Ian Blair, where's your comment on the current Head of the MPS?
 
Everyone says that when they want to do something illegal, be it a traffic offence, drugs, or anything else.

It's as much a stupid comment then as it is now.

Agreed.

Plus drugs have a habbit of dragging down the area around it, and in case of highly addictive drugs, I can imagine it causes the idiot that got hooked to go out and rob for a "fix".
 
they are just preparing for their new BNP masters...jackboots already on order!

back with the death penalty and random beatings for people of the wrong colour


tough on crime after all
 
Maybe we should illegalise sugar. I'm pretty certian it's the biggest killer and westernised countries.

Maybe we should lock fat people up in fat camps for their own protection so they can't do any harm to themselves. Owait, they already do that with drug dealers who are dealing to keep themselves above the breadline.

I can't even count the number of dealers i know on my digits. I can't think of one who is antisocial. Let's not tarnish all dealers with one brush
 
I don't have the energy to argue how stupid that statement is. Sufficed to say you must live in a different world to the rest of us if you think drug users and dealers never hurt anyone but themselves.

Not if someone doesn't over do it.

Theft, murder, rape, vandalism, fraud,
Are far bigger issues than a bit of drug use.
 
Daiilllyy Maasshhh:

TORTURE COPS 'ARE JUST MAVERICKS WHO DON'T PLAY BY THE BOOK'

THE policemen accused of torturing drug suspects are loose cannons who may not play by the book but they get results godammit, it was claimed last night.

As six officers were suspended amid claims of waterboarding, police sources stressed that sometimes a cop has to take matters into his own hands if he is going to keep the streets safe for you and that nice little wife of yours.

A Scotland Yard insider said: "They've got some buttoned-up, college-educated divisional commander bustin' their asses. And for what? For givin' some no-good punk a bath when he don't wannit?

"Jeez, times have changed since I joined the force, I tells ya. Times was you could take a perp to the old docks and pop him in the back of the head when no-one was lookin'. Who's gonna be askin' questions about a piece of scum like that?

"We comes out of the academy all fresh-faced, but then you see all these thieves and drug dealers and newspaper sellers on their way home from work day after day, and it changes you."

He added: "Okay, so maybe pushin' someone's head repeatedly into a bucket of water may not elicit the desired response and may, in the long run, prove to be counterproductive in terms of engendering community support and co-operation. Actually, that's a very good point isn't it?

"So what you're saying is that we might have safer communities if we had well-trained officers adhering to strict operational standards, instead of some halfwit maniacs who think they're Dirty Harry or that northern geezer in Funk to Funky.

"Come to think of it, you're right, they really are just a collection of ********, aren't they?"

B@
 
Drug classification needs a serious rethink and it should also stop waffling around with the tobacco/alcohol debate and add those to seriously dangerous.

The home office always trys to portrait that all drugs are bad yet on average more people die from pain killers than MDMA each year, they they still class it as a Grade A substance dispite calls from their own researchers calling for it to be changed.

Peoples opinions on drugs are always warped from the media and I find it funny that people would condone legalising heroin/cocaine etc as that is just stupid.

KaHn
 
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