Are you happy being spied on by Virgin media?

Strife212 · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:26

Direct Download

P2P for piracy noobs (Although I P2P because I can't be bothered to set anything better up

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tsinc80697 · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:27

Azagoth said:
What?

If you're daft enough to download illegally via P2P (ie torrents) and youre openly uploading the same illegal file, then in my eyes you're stupidity should land you straight in it.

snowdog · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:27

wilsky said:
As part of the package, Virgin are planning do DPI of your traffic, to ensure you are not p2peering their music. Repeat offends could face the ban (suspension) hammer!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/15/virgin_universal_unlimited/

If you don't download music, what are your thoughts on being potentially spied on. Or what happens if you get a warning despite not doing anything. This is NTL remember, they can't even get your bill right half the time!

They should **** off, I can't imagine anyone liking what virgin does. My internet traffic would be none of their concern.

Their Fair use Policy sucks anyways, get a proper unlimited isp instead.

Tefal · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:31

tsinc80697 said:
If you're daft enough to download illegally via P2P (ie torrents) and youre openly uploading the same illegal file, then in my eyes you're stupidity should land you straight in it.

you can turn off uploading.

tntcoder · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:33

Strife212 said:
Would using Steganography to hide songs encoded using an obscure file format inside image files given names created using a random number generator and then encrypted with 256Bit AES and sent through a tunneled proxy over an SSL encrypted connection be detected by VM or would that bypass their alert?

Is that a joke

? Yes, that kind of encryption would not be bypassable by them. DPI is useless on encrypted traffic, all they could tell is whos talking to who unless they control the connection end-points.

Strife212 · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:37

Yes it was a joke

sid · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:37

Surely they can't afford the kit to monitor everyone. Its simple economics. They aren't loosing that much money to justify this

tsinc80697 · 15 Jun 2009 at 23:38

Tefal said:
you can turn off uploading.

I know you can, and that's why I am saying, if you are daft enough to download/upload copyrighted files via P2P without encryption then you are daft enough to be caught and should learn a lesson!

LukeTW · 16 Jun 2009 at 00:04

mrk said:
I'll continue to be naughty haw haw.

Same

wilsky · 16 Jun 2009 at 01:02

Strife212 said:
Would using Steganography to hide songs encoded using an obscure file format inside image files given names created using a random number generator and then encrypted with 256Bit AES and sent through a tunneled proxy over an SSL encrypted connection be detected by VM or would that bypass their alert?

Weaver · 16 Jun 2009 at 01:09

Hikari Kisugi said:
With Virgin
Very happy

Truely don't care what they think they can investigate, if doing nothing wrong, nothing to hide. Whining, moaning privacy campaigners often are hiding things.

You know I’m really getting sick and tired of seeing this statement crop up everywhere with regards to covert surveillances, considering how badly thought out it actually is.

EVERYONE has something to hide including you poster, from bank details to NI number, home address post code and tax details right down to everyday correspondences. It’s the reason why letters delivered to your home are SEALED! This information in the wrong hands could be very damaging.

Here is yet another scenario. Think about this for a second, your online shopping habits combined with credit card and store card profiling allows the profiler to target you with advertisements. Let’s say you buy lots of kosher food products. This information is harmlessly stored in a Dbase, however due to the latest bargain on matzo meal the Dbase sends you out spam mail at Passover regardless wither you are Jewish or not. How many Jewish Europeans do you think would be enamoured about this type of profiling information being stored in Dbases about them?

Sound a bit far fetched? DPI technology is at the centre of PHORMS systems, and behavioural advertising, if you don’t know what that is I suggest you research it.

This is all about targeting and restricting certain traffic in order to cash in, a Quote from Berkett VM's CEO,

'application-based restrictions would form part of a broader strategy to "monetise the intelligence" in the Virgin Media network.'

Rotty · 16 Jun 2009 at 01:11

I am with VM and I don't care, they are too stupid to do it properly

Azagoth · 16 Jun 2009 at 01:55

I could swear I had two posts in this thread. Where's the other one gone, or am I losing my mind?

Dj_Jestar · 16 Jun 2009 at 01:57

As Rotty says.. VM are too pants to catch anyone.

Mahnsikir · 16 Jun 2009 at 01:58

What about legitimate p2p use like downloading/uploading huge patches and mods, surely the system can't tell the difference?

Reality|Bites · 16 Jun 2009 at 02:36

When I phone Virgin, in the back of my mind i'm always wondering if the person on the other end of the line knows about my pron surfing habits.

Maybe it flashes up on the screen? PERVERT ALERT!! or something?

ChrisJSY · 16 Jun 2009 at 03:42

Reality|Bites said:
When I phone Virgin, in the back of my mind i'm always wondering if the person on the other end of the line knows about my pron surfing habits.

Maybe it flashes up on the screen? PERVERT ALERT!! or something?

What does it matter, you've just told anyone that visits this thread so you don't care really?

Ucof · 16 Jun 2009 at 09:16

Reality Bites, I can guarantee that nothing like that happens

CowboyTony · 16 Jun 2009 at 09:23

ChrisJSY said:
What does it matter, you've just told anyone that visits this thread so you don't care really?

But we don't have his real name and address - unless one of us works for Virgin, in which case we can probably put 2 and 2 together to identify this pervert.

afraser2k · 16 Jun 2009 at 09:24

If it's just for users of the music service then I won't bother with it. If it's for all subscribers then I'll be moving ISP since I don't trust VM to handle anything like this properly.