not look good for public sector workers

HarryPainful said:
About time there was a "trimming of the fat" in the public sector.

Far too much goes to waste, lets hope its the fat that goes though...
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It's the fat that gets the job of deciding who goes, so what are the odds? Add to that, the fat knows that if they trim the muscle then then there may be public protests about the job losses (depending on which department etc its involved) leading to them being reversed.


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The fat needs trimming from all those useless office jobs and more muscle introduced into the core services like the health care.

MW
 
I work in IT for the NHS.

Management is where the problem is any everyone knows it.

Too many of them, and most of them are bloody idiots !

Although around here the way they are cutting jobs is by "natural wastage" so when someone leaves their job nobody is hired to replace them. Which basicaly means ... loads of Chiefs and no Indians :(
 
Our school seem to be opting for that, people leave and it's up to someone else to cover the job aswell as their own.

Saying that we have a women working as "Head of ICT development" she basically puts on SIMS updates, that's about it. She has been here for years and is buddy buddy with the bursar so gets a ridiculous wage too.

When she leaves we will absorb her "work" which is no biggy.
 
Trimming the fat would just cause more problems wouldnt it.

It would mean more people out of work, more repo's, more debt repayment failures etc?

Surely a better way to deal with the situation would be to reduce the ridiculous amout of time that these people get off on full pay when ill/pregnant/lazy etc.

A friend of ours has recently returned to work after having 9 weeks off on full (or close to full) pay due to stress, then the silly sods gave her easing into work days upon her return.

The best part is that she is one of the HR managers.
 
About time, I have quite a few friends working in the public sector and they say that a third of the people don't need to be there at all and that all they do is hang around and pass their work to anybody who will take it.
 
Yip, about time they got rid of the waster's, people l know that work for the public sector do sweet F.A and get well paid.
 
OLDPHART said:
Yip, about time they got rid of the waster's, people l know that work for the public sector do sweet F.A and get well paid.
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I work my backside off for the Public Sector and get paid well less* than the industry standard for my job.

So please can we keep the tired stereotypes out of this thread,

The unions will have a fit!


* I do, however, have a final salary pension.
 
management in Public Sector is the problem. People get made manager and have no real experience. I'm safe as planning is a service they cannot cut.

Borich

Edit: Not all bad though, final salary pension,bmw company car on order and earing mid 30's not bad for 26 in the public sector!
 
izzy eckerslike said:
1/5th of our ever increasing council tax goes into public sector workers pensions & this annoys me intensely, they also get to start drawing on this at aged 60 for men & women.

Why should they get different treatment from the rest of us? & why should we be paying into their pension funds?
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Because we chose a career path that is there to help & support our communities, not me someone else rich. And get paid a lot less than the private sector for the priviliege

LordSplodge said:
I work my backside off for the Public Sector and get paid well less* than the industry standard for my job.

So please can we keep the tired stereotypes out of this thread,

The unions will have a fit!


* I do, however, have a final salary pension.
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Same, but I think your request will fall on deaf ears.
 
I know quite a few public sector workers, most of them spend their entire day fannying around on the internet. Cut their access to only a handful of pre-approved work related sites and watch productivity increase, then cream off the ones who're then surplus to requirements.
 
rojones said:
I work in IT for the NHS.

Management is where the problem is any everyone knows it.

Too many of them, and most of them are bloody idiots !

Although around here the way they are cutting jobs is by "natural wastage" so when someone leaves their job nobody is hired to replace them. Which basicaly means ... loads of Chiefs and no Indians :(
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just moving into the NHS IT system now.
from what I've seen of other public sector places when they try and trim the fat it's at the expence of somthing else. the people who leave are the ones working their asses off and the ones have to pickup their workload are already over-stretched. they need to tighten the ship more than anything. people going off on "stress" for 6 months, coming back for 3 days then going off again for another 6 months (full pay) is just one example of how the slackers work the system.
 
VeNT said:
just moving into the NHS IT system now.
from what I've seen of other public sector places when they try and trim the fat it's at the expence of somthing else. the people who leave are the ones working their asses off and the ones have to pickup their workload are already over-stretched. they need to tighten the ship more than anything. people going off on "stress" for 6 months, coming back for 3 days then going off again for another 6 months (full pay) is just one example of how the slackers work the system.
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do you have any examples of that happening?

When I broke my leg I was given 4 weeks off on full pay & 2 weeks on 1/2 pay.
 
I've worked at a regional government office in the past. You wouldn't believe what goes on. If you can stand the boredom long enough it's a gravy train for life. Senior staff get a paid a very healthy wage + pension to basically sit around doing sweet fa all day. There's very little pressure to get anything done, and when they finally attempt some real work, nine times out of ten they create more problems than they started with.

They could have quite easily fired all of them (around 200) and it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference. I had to get out as I found the whole experience quite demoralising. They nurture a culture that breads mediocrity, laziness and incompetence, and from the stories I’ve been told it’s the same across most public sector organisations
 
I reckon you've heard a few stories, I doubt you'd be able to remember stories relating to over a 100,00 different people's laziness and incompetence.
 
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