new internet tax

Shock horror, why don't the MP's just claim less in expenses and chuck in a few grand each?

And this 50p will NOT increase your speeds, it is going to be spent on getting 2MB broadband to remote areas.
 
30.5mil is a pathetic amount of money, they will just waste it all on worthless conartist... err pardon me, contractors. Thanks, id rather keep my 50p.
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
There were 13,957,111 broadband subscribers in the UK in 2007. 50p tax each, we're looking at a whopping £7 million a year!!!!
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Maybe I'm being stupid but if 14 million people paid 1 pound each wouldn't that be 14 million pounds? Baring in mind that it's actually 6 pounds per phone line, I think they might be generating quite a bit more revenue...
 
scorza said:
So you're against these people in rural areas having phone lines in the first place? Since it must be commercially unviable to build exchanges there in the first place? Likewise with roads - sorry villagers, only 200 people live here, it's not commercially viable to build a road here - stick to horses.
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Well, you've made assumptions, go you!

If it's not commercially viable, why should I pay for your lifestyle choice?...

I live in a city, therefore I lose out on green spaces but gain better infrastructure. You pays your money, you takes your choices.

scorza said:
Governments provide the infrastructure for businesses to do what they do best - doing business. It's clear that selling this telecommunications infrastructure off on the cheap was a massive mistake by the Thatcher government, one which means that we as taxpayers unfortunately now have to subsidise private companies. However not doing it is going to cause much more harm in the long term.
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Let's just call the whole Thatcher experiment a terrible mistake (besides smashing the unions - that was a boon) and never mention it again.

How about running things as not-for-profit organisations? Much like the very profitable Network Rail (subtracting government subsidy, they are turning a very healthy profit!)
Or setting up a body which deals with rural broadband provision and it's sustainability?

No. I definitely think your idea of burdening everyone with the same problem is better... :rolleyes:
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
Well, you've made assumptions, go you!

If it's not commercially viable, why should I pay for your lifestyle choice?...

I live in a city, therefore I lose out on green spaces but gain better infrastructure. You pays your money, you takes your choices.
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LOL so you are against rural communities having vital transport and communication infrastructures? Go you! :rolleyes:
 
I plan on becoming an MP and then funding the whole service under an expense claim :D

But seriously why dont they increase the local tax if they want to improve the service in their area and then it would apply to those that want it.
 
anticonscience said:
Shock horror, why don't the MP's just claim less in expenses and chuck in a few grand each?

And this 50p will NOT increase your speeds, it is going to be spent on getting 2MB broadband to remote areas.
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As I already said I live 2.5 Miles from the city centre (Sunderland) and I can't get 2Mb via ADSL thats why I get 20Mb via VM
 
bloodline76 said:
I plan on becoming an MP and then funding the whole service under an expense claim :D

But seriously why dont they increase the local tax if they want to improve the service in their area and then it would apply to those that want it.
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If you absolutely *must* fund something which isn't viable, then yes, this makes more sense than taxing people who have nothing to do with it / will never benefit from it.
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
Don't like it? Don't live there.

If you're not willing to pay for the services, why do you expect to have them?
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Ever considered that many people move to the country to have the chance to build a nice home and be surrounded by good old fashioned peace and quiet?

Do you expect everyone living outside the exchange / cabled area to pay for bonded lines or custom fibre installations because BT / Virgin will not swallow overheads and upgrade their awful network?

I believe everyone should have the same level of service throughout. As it stands the communications companies are ignoring the "not-spots" and focusing on maximising the profits for the urban customers, and no one is saying anything.

Won't be long before a 2MB connection is like dial-up when you consider 50MB is now Virgin's highest package.. I better move :p
 
I still fail to see why I should pay for any one elses connection upgrade. Give me one good argument, want better connection, organise a mob of locals and give the company insentive to better your area. Split the bill, of bringing better broadband to your area.

It has nothing to do with me, if it was food. Fair do, I would agree is essential, but broadband? 2MB is more then enough.
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
2mbit down, 256kbit up achieves all of this?

The Koreans must have cats made out of hologrammatic lasers with their internet speeds!
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You must have never tried to use the internet on a 56k dial-up connection. The increase in speed seemed massive when I upgraded to 512Kb broadband, but best of all was that my connection didn't drop out every couple of hours. Back then most websites etc were designed for people on 56k dial-up sessions too, can't imagine what it'd be like using 56k on today's flash-enabled, .gif heavy sites.

The South Korean government paid for their nation's telecommunications infrastructure, which is why they have the best connections today (which is translating into economic growth for them too!). I don't know about North Korea's broadband network ;)
 
EVH said:
Ever considered that many people move to the country to have the chance to build a nice home and be surrounded by good old fashioned peace and quiet?
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Sure. Your point is?

EVH said:
Do you expect everyone living outside the exchange / cabled area to pay for bonded lines or custom fibre installations because BT / Virgin will not swallow overheads and upgrade their awful network?
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Yes? Or club together and sort something else out like last-mile ISPs have been doing for years now.

EVH said:
I believe everyone should have the same level of service throughout. As it stands the communications companies are ignoring the "not-spots" and focusing on maximising the profits for the urban customers, and no one is saying anything.
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I believe hologrammatic laser cats are a basic human right.
A private company, maximising profits??? Christ almighty!

EVH said:
Won't be long before a 2MB connection is like dial-up when you consider 50MB is now Virgin's highest package.. I better move :P
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You pay your money, you take your choices.
 
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