Section 59

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I've always been polite with the police as I've always been treated fairly but the ***** I dealt with today must be some sort of new breed.

I was issued with a Section 59 warning for overtaking a coach and a Volvo estate in front of the coach. The volvo was unmarked and he pulled me 1/2 mile later, after driving into town. Was a bit perplexed to see the lights but I had crept over 60 for the manuever so I was expecting a warning from a bored copper.

It was nothing to do with speed he said, although he knew I was over 60 as that was his speed. It was the overtake itself, which he then tried to explain could have caused distress. I asked if the manuever was safe and he said (twice actually during the conversation) that it was fine apart from the "manner" of the overtake which when pressed he could not really expand on.

When I asked if I could appeal, he offered to change it from a warning to an actual offence and have the car seized then and there, so I obviously dropped it. Signed the notice, breathalysed and left. Bit galling really as if had been around Friday he could have done some real work and maybe done something about the bloke who chucked a bottle at me (other thread).

Anyway, can these things be appealed and whats the name of the site people use for appealing motoring offences? Ta.
 
youll struggle to appeal mate to be quite honest with you. the problem youve got now if you are given a 2nd 59 warning your vehicle will be sezied as your details will be recorded on pnc.
 
Sorry if I'm being dense but what do you wish to appeal against if you received neither a finer nor points?
 
Fett

Sounds like he was a right plonker, only problem with appealing is as you were going over the speed limit couldent it develop further because of that ?

Annoying really, they obv have nothing better to do :rolleyes:
 
Why would you appeal if you knew you were doing over 60?

Because it's a ******* offence, one more time and his car could be seized and crushed, all of this at the discretion of one officer. I find the Section 59 outrageous tbh, should not be allowed.
 
Sorry if I'm being dense but what do you wish to appeal against if you received neither a finer nor points?

I'd have no problem with fine/points/Section 59 if it were warranted. The fact he said it was safe doesn't really tie in with receiving a warning for causing distress, even though I asked how and to who that distress was or could be caused.

So next time I get a ******-off copper who is a bit bored, the car will be seized. No big deal, hundred quid or so and you start again. It's more the principal. I really would not argue my case in the slightest if I thought it was a fair pinch, I usually think the police get it right.
 
I fail to see how doing ~65mph - 70mph to overtake a bus and an unmarked car should get a Section 59. :/

A stern talking to maybe, but Section 59 just sounds like the police officer is a knob...and to jump on the M3 thread's bandwagon of responses to things...jealous.
 
'The Manner' What a load of tosh. You didn't do anything that has endangered yourself or another road user.. like you said I think the Copper was bored and was having a bit of a complex.
 
I didn't say it was. To me it looks like he's got away with it, why appeal?

As said above, 2 strikes and you loose your car.. I wouldn't want that hanging over my head everytime I took my car out when in fairness.. the guy obviously doesn't seem to of done anything wrong..
 
Fett

Sounds like he was a right plonker, only problem with appealing is as you were going over the speed limit couldent it develop further because of that ?

I'm not sure they can try anything relating to speed after I've been stopped and no fine was issued. The lane ahead was empty up to the roundabout (just under half a mile) so there was zero need to gun it, the car didn't drop a cog and I was cruising in 6th so it was a leisurely overtake at maybe 70.

If I had driven away with points and a fine, I wouldn't be posting or moaning as technically I was speeding.
 
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