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[Tute]

It's universally accepted that HL2 is far better then Doom3, you are utterly alone in your opinon

I don't think I am.

I think most just say HL2 is better because

a) People like you just shout them down.
b) They like the mods and assume that because TF2/CSS/Portal is good then HL2 must be as well.

It's just such a bland game. Any idiot could take an Orwellian regime, throw in some random dude in a suit and tell us nothing about him, make it look pretty and chuck it on the shelves.

It's not a bad game. It just never raised the bar at all. The first was great because it did everything better than anything else at the time. The second does not.

Doom 3 has it beat in graphics, physics, atmosphere, immersive gameplay, and as an added advantage, doesn't come forced with Steam.

 

[Substance]

I don't think I am.

I think most just say HL2 is better because

a) People like you just shout them down.
b) They like the mods and assume that because TF2/CSS/Portal is good then HL2 must be as well.

It's just such a bland game. Any idiot could take an Orwellian regime, throw in some random dude in a suit and tell us nothing about him, make it look pretty and chuck it on the shelves.

It's not a bad game. It just never raised the bar at all. The first was great because it did everything better than anything else at the time. The second does not.

Doom 3 has it beat in graphics, physics, atmosphere, immersive gameplay, and as an added advantage, doesn't come forced with Steam.

I love HL2, The story is brilliantly told and the characters are believable and actually feel like they have emotion, the set pieces are excellent and put seamlessly into the game, it set the standard for physics in games and I still haven't played a game that uses the environment as well as it does.

There is so much the game did right I could go on all night

Doom 3 on the other hand looked great at the time and had a few jumpy bits but overall the game was a disappointment but I usually love ID's games so am really looking forward to doom 4

 

[slambo69]

It does everything better or as good as HL2 does.

It has as good physics engine? It has likeable and connectable characters like Alyx and Barney?

Doom 3 was good, it was a shoot em up that was sometimes scary.

Half Life 2 was a masterpiece and one of the top 3 FPS games ever created, it never gets boring, the environments are always changing, the soundtrack is absolutely superb. You didnt feel punished for not standing in a spot for 2 minutes listening to audio diaries and every second door wasnt a room with dark corners.

Half Life 2 is more of a journey than a game, essentially every FPS is just one big corridor, but with HL2, it disguised it very well.

 

[Tummy]

What was wrong with Doom 3?

Apart from it being better than HL2?

I disagree, and I think most of the gaming community disagree.

Half Life 2, was something fresh. It look you on a very linear journey, but not once did you feel as if you were on it.

Carrying on from where the first one left off, fantastic graphics, and a sound and feel to the game. Brilliant story telling, coupled with fast paced game play. Valve, have shown with two titles, Half Life and Half Life 2, that they're still able to raise the bar again, by a fairly big margin. I'd say Crysis and Far Cry, are two games that have come close to Half Life.

The mavity gun, was a brilliant moment in the game, and first person shooters. The main selling point, was that Half Life two, told a brilliant story.

Doom 3, I found very dull, there was no big open space's and most fights felt oddly similar. Doom 3, is a good example, of a safe corridor shooter.

The only thing doom 3 did really well, was the atmosphere with having to swap from flash light to gun. Other then that, offered nothing over Half Life 2.

 

[Natima]

Come to think of it, the mavity gun has changed the way modern game developers try to do somethinbg "new"... Ironically.
How many games are there now that allow you to interact with the world, in a way that is ripped directly from the crates in HL1 and mavity Gun in HL2?

 

[Dauthi]

Doom 3 was a brilliant corridor crawler to its credit. The not being able to carry a gun with a flashlight was annoying but so was the shared flashlight/sprint energy in HL2.

 

["andy"]

Like Doom 3, huh?

your not honestly saying that it wasnt worth buying ?

it wasnt as good as hl2 but at the time it was still one of the best games about

 

[Frame352]

Doom 3 always struck me as a 7/10 game. Good, but nothing exceptional. HL2 is ranked by many as the best PC game of all time, and it's hard for me personally to argue with that.

 

[Tute]

The story is brilliantly told

It's told no better than any other game! Seriously, are you seeing something i'm not here? As I said above, it's pretty standard "Orwellian" stuff.

the characters are believable

I'll give you that but that doesn't set it apart from any other?

and actually feel like they have emotion

Eh? Er... no?

the set pieces are excellent and put seamlessly into the game

They're good, but like Doom 3 start to repeat themselves. Most are stolen from HL1 as well.

it set the standard for physics in games and I still haven't played a game that uses the environment as well as it does.

Even at the time, the physics were clunky and awkward. And it certainly doesn't do physics better than Crysis.

There is so much the game did right I could go on all night

You probably could, but given what you've already said I think most of it would be inaccurate.

Doom 3 on the other hand looked great at the time and had a few jumpy bits but overall the game was a disappointment but I usually love ID's games so am really looking forward to doom 4

Did you finish Doom 3?

 

[slambo69]

They're good, but like Doom 3 start to repeat themselves. Most are stolen from HL1 as well.

Half life 2 takes you on an adventure through toxic wasteland on a hovercraft, coastline beaches on a buggy, through graveyards, streets, hospitals a prison and of course inside the citadel which could almost be a game on its own. The environments are nothing like the original half life - that statement itself proves your ridiculous arrogance.

The story IS well told. You say its no better told than any other game - name me an fps with a storyline that stands out more than HL2? It unfolds well, the characters help make it more believable and give it more depth ie Alyx looking for her father.

That characters do have emotion - as much emotion as you could back in 2004. The facial animations were great and the voice acting was also up to scratch.

Grrr it really grinds my gears when people diss works of art such as HL2. Its a superbly designed and executed game that plays brilliantly. All reviews say this and no matter what you or any other internetz forum member say, it has been a big positive to gaming as a whole. Everyones entitled to their opinions, I 'dont get' some big games like Halo for example, but I dont feel the need to come out with such outrageous statemtents. I understand HL2 has its flaws, like everygame but everyone seems to say its the perfect game.

 

[Frame352]

It's told no better than any other game! Seriously, are you seeing something i'm not here? As I said above, it's pretty standard "Orwellian" stuff.



I'll give you that but that doesn't set it apart from any other?



Eh? Er... no?



They're good, but like Doom 3 start to repeat themselves. Most are stolen from HL1 as well.



Even at the time, the physics were clunky and awkward. And it certainly doesn't do physics better than Crysis.



You probably could, but given what you've already said I think most of it would be inaccurate.



Did you finish Doom 3?

I did, and agree with everything he said. How can he be inaccurate anyway when giving an opinion?

 

[Tute]

Grrr it really grinds my gears when people diss works of art such as HL2.

I see.

I rest my case.

I did, and agree with everything he said. How can he be inaccurate anyway when giving an opinion?

Because with HL2, you either like it or you're wrong. I don't dislike it, I just can't see how it's better than anything else. Therefore i'm clearly wrong. Must be me.

Remember, this is Half-Life 2 we're talking about. The game that was already "best gaim evar!!" before it had even gone gold. I think that says it all really.

 

[slambo69]

Way to take my quote out of context...

You're certainly showing the short reply crowd you sneered at how its done anyway.

 

[Tute]

Way to take my quote out of context...

You're certainly showing the short reply crowd you sneered at how its done anyway.

How can you even take a comment like that out of context?

You're the one who said it.

And I see we're resorting to pettyness. Was to be expected.

 

[titaniumx3]

Doom 3 was awesome. Yes if you were expecting something exactly like the originals you'd be disappointed, but it was still a huge achievement and still filled me with dread whilst playing, just like the originals.

Also, comparing HL2 and Doom 3 is difficult, very different artistic design choices, but in all honesty I got the same enjoyment from both games.

 

[Frame352]

Because with HL2, you either like it or you're wrong. I don't dislike it, I just can't see how it's better than anything else. Therefore i'm clearly wrong. Must be me.

Remember, this is Half-Life 2 we're talking about. The game that was already "best gaim evar!!" before it had even gone gold. I think that says it all really.

Well, I'm disagreeing with you, but I have in no way said you're "wrong", have I?

 

[veggiemanuk]

Raveholm alone beats D3 hands down. Case closed, you can all go to bed now!

Serously, im 38 and it still scares the crap out of me every time I play it

Best game level ever designed.

 

[dbmzk1]

HL2 was not all that in my opinion.

A very good game, yes, with plenty of variety. But nothing terribly ground breaking.

The story was good but of course incomplete as they want you to buy the expansions and it's not told in a very engaging or entertaining way, it's just scripted scenes - nothing special. Some really drag on a bit too and it's weird that you never speak.

Characters were indeed well developed, but none stood out as being that interesting and I really didn't give a crap about any of them.

The general level design is indeed very good, though the vehicle sections are generally terrible and the scenery is bland and repetitive.

Oh and the ending is pitiful!

I couldn't get into Doom 3 personally. Very pretty and great atmosphere, but it just got boring very fast. Nothing to keep your attention. It's nowhere near as good as HL2.

EDIT: Ravenholm was not scary! Bit freaky in places, but nothing spectacular. Doom 3 is not scary either, it's got more of a creepy thing going on and is out to shock you when things jump out etc. Want a scary game then go play SS2 or Penumbra.

 

[skullman]

and it's weird that you never speak.

I think its a nice touch. Makes it more immersive, and I can imagine I am Freeman \o/. It makes a change from other games where nothing is left to the imagination and you end up controlling some unlikable pillock, such as that immature twit in Assassin's Creed, who I disliked so much I ended up abandoning the game.

 

[Tute]

Well, I'm disagreeing with you, but I have in no way said you're "wrong", have I?

I didn't say you had.

[Edit] I've just realised that we've had 35 posts of complete and utter thread derailment. In the interests of not getting this locked, i'm going to just let you win.

Have fun.