I'm assuming that's a typo :S
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I'm assuming that's a typo :S
Sorry i'm not an intel person so thats that out the window.
A typo?
The spec so we know its not random system specs being 'blurted' out.
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl585/index.html
Why aren't you an Intel person?
I never understood why people go with a certain product, even when it's inferior.
Always had better results with AMD. I had an Intel Core2Duo laptop before my current machine. It was utter crap and the worst way to part with £1200!
I guess its just personal preference as well really. People like certain types of car etc etc. All in all unless you've experienced something, you can't stick with one thing.
Those opterons are dual core, and to run '100GB plus' ram, you'll need to drop to PC2700 speeds and spend well in excess of £4000 on ECC registered memory.
They are indeed dual core, but having four of them is still better than 4 singles. Correct on the cost of ram, thats why i would stick with the standard 16GB, although in fairness yes it is only gona be 333/400 MHz which is so miniscule compared with todays ram ie: DDR 2/3. But, i am a man who likes a bit of difference. Why go down the same route of hearing about over heating and this failing and that failing. Although these could fail, i personally think they have a longer chance of life than most out there!
As the previous statement says, to be different. Why would anybody take a system that was probably state of the art 3-4 years ago and use it now. I did and it performs fine, never misses a beat.
I don't have any objections to modern equipment, but i do get fed up with progression. People fork out lots of money for exellent items and within a week its as good as dead in terms of value. Don't get me wrong - thats life, which is why i choose take an alternative route.
Currently, i use the machine for general use which extends to nothing more than web browsing, email and a few other activities such as photos, music etc. I don't do gaming and never will - one day i will get a PS3. You have a very valid question there, and to be honest i don't know the answer myself
.Yup, old equipment is good to tinker with. I've had to throw away 20+ Quad Xeon 700mhz servers recently that were still working fine, they ran Windows 2003 great, but even though they cost £20K when new, they were only worth £30 in ebay 
From a geeks point of view, their build quality was amazing and it pained me to bin them.
And your Athlon MPs were state of the art 6 years ago, that is why a £30 cpu today can out perform them, its all about Moore's Law
From a geeks point of view, their build quality was amazing and it pained me to bin them.And your Athlon MPs were state of the art 6 years ago, that is why a £30 cpu today can out perform them, its all about Moore's Law
What an odd thing to say. I would always buy the best (whether price, performance, etc) at the time rather than keeping to one brand no matter what.
Not odd at all. Commonly known as personal preference. Better the devil you know, clearly a statement you don't stand by.
I honestly 100% believe that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
To say 2 x 2Ghz CPUs = 4Ghz says to me that you're not in any position to claim that you're 'not an intel person'.
Personal preference to one brand is not a good idea. Every company has good and bad products from time to time, so not sure why you'd want their bad ones
I've used both companies for CPUs (and Cyrix when they were around) and not had any problems, just got to do a bit of research.
Anyway I'm sure you'll ignore that
ITs not that point at all, in reality you learn something new everyday and joining this forum has been extremely helpful in finding out some more useful information, some of which was unknown to me.
I personally think your statement above is a load of old ****. Its nothing to do with knowledge or anything like that. As i have said about 5 times now, its all down to personal preference. IF something works for you why change it, or if choosing to upgrade, stay with that brand.
Anyway I'm sure you'll ignore that
What an absurd quote. Its nothing to do with taking other peoples advice. 500 people could go out and buy a 250GB Seagate Barracuda and all have a great experience. 1 unlucky person could come along and get the one which fails! Just like you say every company has bad products from time to time, be it purely a poor design or just component failure.
As i have said so many times now, i've had more AMD systems than Intel and all have proved to be far superior. Perhaps a majority would turn round and say, hang on i've had intel for years, no problems why go AMD. Its always going to be an on going debate in the computer world.
In all honesty i joined this forum to get some useful information. So far most has been good but unfortunately there have been a few who just pose more a nuisance than good. But i suppose every forum will be the same
In what way?
What an absurd quote. Its nothing to do with taking other peoples advice. 500 people could go out and buy a 250GB Seagate Barracuda and all have a great experience. 1 unlucky person could come along and get the one which fails! Just like you say every company has bad products from time to time, be it purely a poor design or just component failure.
As i have said so many times now, i've had more AMD systems than Intel and all have proved to be far superior. Perhaps a majority would turn round and say, hang on i've had intel for years, no problems why go AMD. Its always going to be an on going debate in the computer world.
In all honesty i joined this forum to get some useful information. So far most has been good but unfortunately there have been a few who just pose more a nuisance than good. But i suppose every forum will be the same
Different situation though. You're talking reliability which is biased by brand preference.
This isn't why you're being recommended an intel system. Intel are on top at the moment, that's why you've been advised to go intel.
Having such preferences when your performance and value are quite poor in relation isn't a wise thing to do.
It's like the current graphics cards, a lot of people who buy GTX285s do so because of 'preference' when in reality they're just throwing away money. They could get a 4890 for about £100 less and have a card pretty much just as good.
In that he likes AMD better, so therefore the AMD system was better.
I honestly like AMD more as a company, but when it came to buying CPUs, the intel route was the best for me in terms of value and performance as well as overclockability.