Torchwood - Dr Who Spin off

I cant quite put my finger on it, but for some reason the British just can not do good tv sc-fi . Its just never ever believable. I can watch stargate all day long and hear samantha carta badgering on about energy fields and naqeda, yet when ever a character in a british series like dr who or torchwood start saying 'time fields' or 'time-space combobulator' i literally cringe. A combination of the writing and performance just make it for too unbelievable.

I think it might have something to do with the military approach that the americans take to Sci-Fi. The one thing all the major american Sci-Fi series have in common is an impending sense of doom often instilled in a military context with a proper chain of command and purpose of being.

In these british series, our protagonist finds himself in a mystical land of next to no importance surrounded by a group of socially retarded miscreants swimming about a proverbial soup of bizarre and unbelievable encounters like some fruit cake in a loony bin assured of his own destruction by the Tzar of muk-luk land.
 
I loved the first series of Torchwood, more so than Dr Who - and now that I can catch up on it within a very short time of it going out on air (iPlayer!!) it's going to be a regular sunday evening hour :)

Oh and the first episode was very gay indeed but it was so funny the way James Masters went about it ...
 
Stupid dvd recorder cut off just before the end of the latest episode when Jack and Gwen were talking about giving her boyfriend the drug.
Jack says "So you really think you could go back to your old life before Torchwood" and it cuts out.
What happened next?
 
I was hoping/thinking that Jack had already retconned him, but by the snippet we saw of the next episode it looks like he still knows what's going on.
 
I cant quite put my finger on it, but for some reason the British just can not do good tv sc-fi snip..

That is because British Sci-Fi is meant to be tounge in cheek. Whereas our flag waving gun-ho cousins across the pond take things too seriously, while they save the world single handedly. (It's a film but ID4 is a prime example, the line by a couple of British Tornado pilots along the lines of "Top-ho I wondered when the yanks would come up with a plan" REALLY ticks me off.)

Red Dwarf, Dr Who, Blakes Seven, Space 1999, UFO, HHGTTG even Day of the Triffids to a degree. All firmly tounge in cheek.

Although there are exceptions. Quatermass, The Nightmare Man (anyone remember that? Scared the poo out of me at the time :o )

Let the Yanks save the world with a grim seriousness, we'll do it with a smile on our faces.

~S
 
I thought last night's episode was one of the best so far. The sexual tension was toned down a bit which was good, and the whole Rhys-Gwen-Jack thing was done well.

I just find that at times the character development isn't what it could be - Rhys is the case in point in the last episode. He's all of a sudden suspicious of Gwen after a year, and the whole thing is wrapped up in one episode :/ I guess that's the disadvantage of having several writers contributing to the show.
 
Just finished S2 last night. Too much gay stuff. :-/ Also characters are just too unstable, all of the Torchwood characters have used artefacts for there own gain, yet Jack still keeps them on. And they all seem to suffer from bipolar disorder. Especially Gwen.
 
Just a heads up (and a bit of thread ressurection to boot) to let you know that the new Torchwood episodes start tomorrow on BBC1. This time around it's a run of five interlinked episodes under the umbrella title of "Children of Earth". Have't really been too impressed with Torchwood, claims to be grown up Doctor Who but it comes across kidish with added curse words and blood, but these new episodes look good


"When every single child on Earth stops, Torchwood is thrown into a world of terror."
 
Have't really been too impressed with Torchwood, claims to be grown up Doctor Who but it comes across kidish with added curse words and blood, but these new episodes look good"

I though the 2nd series improved on the first though the 'I'm Captain Jack and I'm so gay I make Will Young look straight' is starting to wear thin. Still, I'd love a crack at Eve Miles. She certainly knows how to fill a pair of jeans.:D
 
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