No wonder it's so easy to get fat these days

RL is right really.. I tend to prepare my own lunch for work so I know what goes in.

I have a big cook up at the weekend, Pastas, rice, Chicken etc at that will last me the week. Saves a few pennies too.
 
Even companies like "Pret" have come under fire for not being as healthy as they'd like to suggest.

Sure it's full of nice fresh natural ingredients but then the dressings and the like are full of cals, the 'healthy' nut bars are glued togeather with sugar and nuts are naturally very high in fats...

Make your own food, you know what's in it, you can use quality produce and still generally it'll cost less. Best of both worlds, get a greenhouse and grow your own, it's a piece of cake (you can't actually grow cake), my girlfriend has massive cucumbers...
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Agreed.

I am into week 3 of that and along with cutting out sugary drinks and carbs, the weight is falling off. I am almost a stone lighter than I was 3 weeks ago.
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I hope you realise theres no chance in hell thats just fat? I don't say that lightly either, I honestly think you're doing more harm than good to yourself. Do you think the weight will stay off once you begin to eat more normally? Good on you for cutting out the sugary drinks and (bad?) carbs though

I spent a while on a very low calorie intake when I was new to training and can testify its NOT the way to go.

The most extreme method of dieting i'd ever consider is the velocity diet if I needed to cut excess fat
 
Only problem with the slimfast diet is that your metabolism slows (quite drastically, too!) so if/when you start eating 'normally' again, you'll balloon until metabolism starts up again.

30+mins of exercise a day does a LOT more than most people think. Sure, in that 30mins you might only burn off a fwe hundred calories. Well done, you've shed that sarnie you had. But it will up your metabolism which will burn off 1000's throughout the day.

Eat smaller meals, more frequently. 5 times a day seems to be the best choice for most. Eat fresh produce, and for God's sake stop eating any kind of processed/ready meal. They really, really are awful. Even those places that claim to only use fresh are doing anything but. Eating something with a list of E numbers does more damage than eating several tablespoons of pure lard.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
30+mins of exercise a day does a LOT more than most people think. Sure, in that 30mins you might only burn off a fwe hundred calories. Well done, you've shed that sarnie you had. But it will up your metabolism which will burn off 1000's throughout the day.

Eat smaller meals, more frequently. 5 times a day seems to be the best choice for most. Eat fresh produce, and for God's sake stop eating any kind of processed/ready meal. They really, really are awful. Even those places that claim to only use fresh are doing anything but. Eating something with a list of E numbers does more damage than eating several tablespoons of pure lard.
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Preach it loud, brother :cool:.
 
Voltar said:
counting calories assists in making you conscious of how much you're eating etc, but it doesn't necessarily assist in losing weight, as fewer calories doesn't necessarily mean healthier.
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:confused:

You seem to be confusing two issues. It's quite easy to lose weight by eating unhealthily.
 
Hmmm...

Small sushi pack from Tesco: 153cal
Muller Vitality yogurt (cherry): 118cal
Boost choc bar: 305cal
2x New York Bagels: 432cal
Uncle Ben's Express Egg Fried Rice: 436cal

That puts my pre-dinner calorie intake at 1,444cal

Not too shabby, but then dinner tonight is lasagne I cooked yesterday with salad and some fancy bread, so I'll probably end up topping 2,500, lol!
 
Freefaller said:
You can lose weight, but you don't necessarily lose fat by that ethos.

Remember you can still be slim but have a lot of visceral fat in your body which is far more dangerous. Visceral fats are stored around the organs in your body and are the biggest risk of heart related illnesses and other typical illnesses associated with fat.
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agreed. I remeber some TV show on not so long back, this guy was skinny as a rake to look at but his organs were caked in fat as his diet was almost entirely chocolate.
 
I think you're lucky!

I find it hard to put on weight! :(

I'm 6'3" and 12 stone. I'm a skinny rake! 8% body fat. When i go get my lunch for work i grab 2 sandwiches each roughly with 400-500 calories in and then 2 tropicana pomegranate juices which have 220 calories in. No weight gain at all!

O well, best make the most of it now as it probably won't last! :p
 
Gustov said:
http://www.baskinrobbins.com/Nutrition/product.aspx?Category=Beverages&id=BV308

http://www.baskinrobbins.com/Nutrition/product.aspx?Category=Beverages&id=BV324

:D

Check the ingredients list too!! Looks like a chemistry book.
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Christ...

Ingredients: oreo cookies n cream ice cream (cream, nonfat milk, oreo chocolate cookies pieces (sugar, enriched flour (wheat flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid) vegetable shortening (partially hydrogenated soybean oil), cocoa (processed with alkali), high fructose corn syrup, corn flour, whey, (from milk) corn starch, baking soda, salt, soy lecithin (emulsifier), vanillin – an artificial flavor, chocolate), sugar, corn syrup, whey, n&a vanilla flavor,cellulose gum, mono and diglycerides, guar gum, carrageenan, polysorbate 80, annatto color), milk, simple syrup (sugar, water, citric acid, potassium sorbate as preservative), oreo cookie pieces (sugar, enriched flour (wheat flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate {vitamin b1}, riboflavin {vitamin b2}, folic acid), palm and/or high oleic canola and/or soybean oil, cocoa (processed with alkali), high fructose corn syrup, baking soda, cornstarch, salt, soy lecithin (emulsifier), vanillin - an artificial flavor, chocolate), hot fudge sauce (sugar, corn syrup, water, partially hydrogenated coconut oil, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, cocoa (treated with alkali), nonfat milk solids, modified food starch, salt, sodium bicarbonate, potassium sorbate as preservative, natural and artificial flavors, lecithin, propyl paraben as preservative), whipped cream topping (cream, milk, sugar, dextrose, nonfat dry milk, artificial flavor, mono & diglycerides, carrageenan, mixed tocopherols (vitamin e), to protect flavor, propellant: nitrous oxide).
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I think it's pretty sad that this is the general concept of taste for a lot of people.
 
Shicky said:
I hope you realise theres no chance in hell thats just fat? I don't say that lightly either, I honestly think you're doing more harm than good to yourself.
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Many people believe that ketosis is a perfectly safe way of losing weight and works fantastically. I lost 14lbs in 3 weeks on it, but have since come off.

Shicky said:
Do you think the weight will stay off once you begin to eat more normally?
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If you know what you're doing it does. I lost 14 pounds and gained about 3lbs (probably mostly water) when i reintroduced carbs.

Shicky said:
I spent a while on a very low calorie intake when I was new to training and can testify its NOT the way to go.
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Agreed, but if you are still referring to ketosis, then that's not how the diet works.
 
Gaygle said:
Many people believe that ketosis is a perfectly safe way of losing weight and works fantastically. I lost 14lbs in 3 weeks on it, but have since come off.
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Im sure many do but that doesn't necessarily make them right. Any decent professional trainer would not recommend this to his clients as although the figures 'look good' to the client, its not actually doing them a great deal of good in the long run.

If you know what you're doing it does. I lost 14 pounds and gained about 3lbs (probably mostly water) when i reintroduced carbs.
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Well done for avoiding the 'bounce-back' im sure with close management it can be avoided for the most part. However as I stated to another person, do you believe the weight you lost to be all fat? I think the way you used ketosis is good (i.e. a short blast) to not cause much damage but I still believe it to be a bad idea in the long term at heart.

Agreed, but if you are still referring to ketosis, then that's not how the diet works.
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Nope, I was just on a high carb diet, recommended to me by a very well paid 'expert' (worked for mens health etc.) I lost about 15kgs over just over 3months (75kg down to 60kg) and was by no means an unhealthy or largely fat person, I was actually quite fit from the start. However I lost a good deal of muscle on this and I believe it to have compromised my joints somewhat. Leading to plenty of injury trouble despite being very well informed with training and nutrition now days.
 
Freefaller said:
You can lose weight, but you don't necessarily lose fat by that ethos.

Remember you can still be slim but have a lot of visceral fat in your body which is far more dangerous. Visceral fats are stored around the organs in your body and are the biggest risk of heart related illnesses and other typical illnesses associated with fat.
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It even has a name now! TOFI - Thin Outside, Fat Inside.

People are far FAR too fixated on losing weight. You should concentrate on how you LOOK not how much you WEIGH.

"Mirror beats Scales".

If you don't balance what you eat you'll just go from fat-fat to skinny-fat. The aim should be to reduce calorific intake, whilst retaining the ratio of carbs/protein/fat at about 40/40/20.

And if you don't exercise whilst doing this your muscles will atrophy too - meaning you less efficient at burning calories...skinny-fat.
 
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