Will You Buy Windows 7???

Thanks, im in a bit of a pickle deciding whether to wait for this to come out and use the RC in the mean time or to just use my old copy of vista on the iMacs bootcamp. Does anyone know of any issues with windows 7, bootcamp and visual studio?
 
Well, 2 Home Premiums just ordered at £45 each :D

I'm assuming they contain both 32 and 64 bit versions?

AV Forums have a nice thread up with links to places that haven't sold out yet.
 
Same here order 2 HP E's at £45 at lunchtime :)

Also interested to know whether the disc contains both x32 and x64 versions, is it an upgrade disc or can you use it to do a fresh install ?
 
Ordered 1x premium and 1x professional. Very few reasons to get professional but might be handy to have at home as it'll be what I'm having to tweak at work to get apps working no doubt :*(

If we ever get past XP that is..
 
TheVoice said:
But when has a service pack containing so many new features ever been released? The nearest thing is XP SP2,

Quite honestly, I'm not sure what you were expecting. Windows 7 was never going to be a completely new different OS, because Vista's only been around for two and a half years. It also makes no sense for MS to essentially bin Vista after spending so much time and money developing it. It was fairly obvious that 7 was going to be exactly what it is - a much improved derivative of Vista. Quite what it is that you expect for £45, I don't know.

To be honest, it just seems like you're bitter because you don't want to pay for it, in which case perhaps I should go onto the Motors forum and be bitter about Audi RS4s because I can't afford one of those. £45 isn't an outrageous price at all, considering what you're getting. People pay almost that much for a year's worth of Norton.
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But when has a service pack containing so many new features ever been released? The nearest thing is XP SP2,
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You've answered you're own question there!

I'm not bitter at all, why should I be bitter as I've been using W7 for the last three years, I just call my copy Vista that's all. I'm perfectly happy with Vista and from the usage I've had to date with W7 I can find no logical reason why I should consider changing like for like. Fortunatley I don't tend to suffer from collective jumping in the canal syndrome. I work on the prinicpal that if everyone else is doing something then it must be wrong and I should do the other. That maxim has served me pretty well throughtout my life thus far.

Oh and one other thing - I strongly suspect that one will be able to pick up a copy of W7 for todays special offer price within six months of launch.
 
I strongly don't think that will happen. It has not happened for any other OS version simply because an OS version such as this does not age in teh same way a game ages and drops in price and becomes a bargain.
 
To be honest, it just seems like you're bitter because you don't want to pay for it, in which case perhaps I should go onto the Motors forum and be bitter about Audi RS4s because I can't afford one of those. £45 isn't an outrageous price at all, considering what you're getting.
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Not to spoil your day but if I want to install W7 I won't even have to pay as my daughter runs an IT department - need I say more?
 
Faustus said:
You've answered you're own question there!
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Not really, no. W7 and SP2 for XP are nothing alike at all. SP2 added literally a few features for security, patched some holes and changed nothing else really. Windows 7 is different pretty-much everywhere you look. Not always dramatically different, but different nonetheless. It cannot even be compared to any service pack MS have ever released.

Faustus said:
I'm not bitter at all, why should I be bitter as I've been using W7 for the last three years, I just call my copy Vista that's all. I'm perfectly happy with Vista and from the usage I've had to date with W7 I can find no logical reason why I should consider changing like for like. Fortunatley I don't tend to suffer from collective jumping in the canal syndrome. I work on the prinicpal that if everyone else is doing something then it must be wrong and I should do the other. That maxim has served me pretty well throughtout my life thus far.
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Call it what you want, but you clearly are bitter about something otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to attack people who are more than happy to upgrade to Windows 7. If you don't want to switch to W7 that's absolutely fine, as I've said before nobody is forcing you, but you keep acting like there's something wrong with us for wanting to switch. That isn't the case at all; we just want to use the newer, faster, better OS. Why you feel that's grounds for attack, I don't know. There's no need to be so defensive about Vista, most people on here are using it so clearly we're not Vista-haters.

Faustus said:
Not to spoil your day but if I want to install W7 I won't even have to pay as my daughter runs an IT department - need I say more?
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Then why have you been going on about how it's going to cost you £150 to upgrade to Windows 7?

Incidentally, I agree with mrk, there's little chance at all of Windows 7 being £45 after this.
 
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I work on the prinicpal that if everyone else is doing something then it must be wrong and I should do the other.
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That seems to be the driving force behind your protests to me. 7 is getting almost universal acclaim, so you're criticising it just to be different. You're not reacting to the product - you're reacting to the reaction to the product.

Sometimes people just agree on things because there's a convincing argument for them, not because they're washed away in a tsunami of hysteria. A greatly-improved evolution of Vista for £45 is one of those things.
 
Then why have you been going on about how it's going to cost you £150 to upgrade to Windows 7?
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Because I wouldn't ask my daughter to do something which is inherently dishonest by using an Enterprise licence for personal use.

A greatly-improved evolution of Vista for £45 is one of those things.
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And that is the nub of my argument - I strongly disagree that this is a greatly improved version of Vista - you forget I have been using W7 for months now on my backup PC and as yet there isn't one feature that I have found to be an improvement for me that is over what Vista offers me.

Slightly off topic - W7 will have to be a clean install so everyone that's running the present RC will have to start all over again when their software arrives in 3 months time. Now that thought alone makes my blood run cold. When I swithched to Vista it took my three days of slog to reinstall all my progs apps and settings. That is why I use Acronis TI as I never have to do a clean install no matter what happens as I always have at least two full image copies of my system.
 
Well it's called a BETA or Release Candidate for a reason afterall so there is no excuse for complaint.

I consider myself to be one of the few users here who has a mass of programs installed and intricately configured and well organised yet it would never take me more than a night to reinstall them all and configure it back to how it was prior to clean installing.

I used logic in this regard by backing up key program config files and directories to a 2nd disk and synctoy those backups weekly so that when a reinstall is done I just install the apps and copy the directories over thus all my customisations and settings are restored instantly for all applications.

If it's taking you 3 days then there's an area of your daily computing you need to advance!
 
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Slightly off topic - W7 will have to be a clean install so everyone that's running the present RC will have to start all over again when their software arrives in 3 months time. Now that thought alone makes my blood run cold. When I swithched to Vista it took my three days of slog to reinstall all my progs apps and settings. That is why I use Acronis TI as I never have to do a clean install no matter what happens as I always have at least two full image copies of my system.
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That's always been the case, you've never been able to do an upgrade install of Windows over the beta/RC version.

I agree that doing a clean install is a pain, but it's a pain I'll happily go through when the only alternative is an upgrade install. I simply do not want to be installing one OS over the top of another, I cannot imagine it'd ever be as quick, clean or trouble-free as a fresh install. It's simply not worth the aggravation further down the line.
 
Re: the clean install - blame the EU, not Microsoft. They're the ones who decreed that 7 couldn't ship with IE - thus you have to do a clean install because you can't upgrade from a version that has IE.

3 days to reinstall things? More like 3 hours if you do things intelligently, backing up folders like Application Data. I've never been satisfied with an upgrade install of Windows anyway - always ended up starting afresh.

there isn't one feature that I have found to be an improvement for me that is over what Vista offers me.
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Several people have mentioned the improvements and new features in 7. If none of them grab you enough to make you upgrade, then fine. But stop criticising others' upgrade wishes because you're not personally interested in the new features.

I still think there's a large 'devil's advocate' element in your comments. You're determined to be different.
 
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