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Sorry why is this in the news again? Or is this the conclusion of what was going on in courts a few months back? 
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Anyone know how this compares to the woodgate affair? And isn't the hitting of another person a battery, was under the impression that for an assault there is no need for physical contact.
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I've not said if I think he's innocent or guilty, I'm implying that the state of footballers are so far removed they've become from the rest of society it is a bad thing, and using them as role models isn't a always a good thing. I've merely said that Gerrard's attitude, of which is shared by many footballers. must have being something of a culture shock. Gerrard, not getting his own way. Footballers are paid high amounts of money, and are used to getting pampered and their own way.
You said that they'd come down hard on him a few posts back, in reponse to me saying I think he'll get off lightly. Maybe a fine. Liverpool's captain, in court in Liverpool
Which I replied saying they haven't come to a conclusion one way or another. You've just said that, repeating what I said ?
I just linked a story I'd read, that quote was just backing up my opinion on how far removed footballers are.
I'll say it again. You haven't got a clue.
How do you know what Gerrard's attitude was like? As Pigeon said to somebody earlier, were you there? You've made an assumption based on what the prosecution has claimed not what's been proven.
As for the stuff about getting off lightly. I know there hasn't been a conclusion/verdict however the fact that the case has got this far shows that he clearly hasn't got off lightly. I very confident in saying that at worst he'll get a fine because he can afford top lawyers and most importantly because what he's reportedly done doesn't warrant anything more.
I am sure you still won't be able to understand this so I'll make it easy and stick you on ignore.
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You Liverpool fans really don't like talking about your players when they've done something wrong
No I wasn't there, I have no idea what the man said to Gerrard, but the video showed a man, getting elbowed and then repeatedly punched by Gerrard.
Most cases like this go to court ? This is only getting more attention then say you or me getting punched, because a footballer is involved and a very famous one at that.
The only thing I've said in this thread is that Gerrard will probably get a slap on the wrists and a fine. He's a Liverpool player, going through the courts in Liverpool
I've commented on how I don't think the modern football is used to not getting his own way, and in my opinion this just shows another rich, young man, who has a high opinion of himself, not getting his own way. In return, resorting to a barbaric mentality and punching someone.
How have I "not got a clue" ?
hope the mass media coverage of this might make other spoilt rotten football players think twice about what they get up to on nights out. or if hes innocent then a reminder for them (in all honesty they havent had one in a while...) to think harder about who they hang about with. theres no excuse for the sort of behavior shown wether it be football players/celebs/random scummers
oh and do people hear really think that suspected assaults dont make it to court or is it some kind of 'in' joke ?
police love sending things like this to court. not only do they usually result in charges but they keep stats up and keep the public happy. the main problem they usually have is that the people being assaulted just cant be bothered pressing charges or want to just forget about it.
oh and do people hear really think that suspected assaults dont make it to court or is it some kind of 'in' joke ?
police love sending things like this to court. not only do they usually result in charges but they keep stats up and keep the public happy. the main problem they usually have is that the people being assaulted just cant be bothered pressing charges or want to just forget about it.
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Liverpool's captain, in court in Liverpool
OK thats ridiculous. As if being a Liverpool player will change the result of a trial just because the courts are in Liverpool.He's a Liverpool player, going through the courts in Liverpool
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Wouldnt he still be up for Assault if it was clearly Gerrard uppercutting this guy several times?
This thread really is stupid. So much hate for one man, that a really poor (and doesn't really show anything) CCTV video doesn't really show anything.
Some people will use any excuse to attack someone.
Why are people constantly forgetting to mention he already admitted punching him. The only question is was it in self defense?
One question, looking at that video who do you think is in need of defence?
However bad you think the CCTV is Gerrard has already admitted hitting him, but in self defense.
I don't hate one man, I hate all thugs that have a few drinks and punch someone in a gang. The only time a footballer should be drinking is at controlled club functions or at home. Even then they really should be looking after themselves and hitting the booze when their career is over.
I think it was barnes who once said he was duty bound to keep himself in shape because liverpool paid his large wage. When his career was over he could start drinking. Barnes has since done a lot of catching up
Oh dear another Liverpool fan throwing his toys of his pram
. Heres the thing everyone is entitled to their opinion as to what the CCTV showed...you dont think hes guilty...thats fair enough whereas Tummy thinks he is...funnily enough to me it looks like Gerrard is bang to rights and should suffer the consequences of his utter stupidity and i really hope he does...if hes found guilty.Role model he may have been but if my kid grew up idolising a vicious thug like him...id soon put a stop to that. The sooner Liverpool take the captaincy away from him the better...about time he was taught a lesson and Capello shouldnt pick him for England either..make the idiot suffer a bit.
Of course ill be flamed for that and i expect to be but im just stating my opinion, whether its right or wrong.
If those are his words, then if he was a normal man, he would be doing time, probably 3 months or so.
You cannot pre emptively strike someone in self defence, unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt your personal saftey was in danger, IE, the guy had a knife, a crow bar or a gun.
You cannot act in self defence by striking someone "two or three times" without reply.
You can get away with returning a blow, that is all, if you lace into them like Mr Gerrard has done, then you have not acted in self defence.
Its not because he is Steven Gerrard, or the fact he plays for liverpool, those are the "guide lines" that decide whether you get done or not.
I'm not forgetting that, I was talking about the so called 'boxer like' punches that Gerrard threw. I cannot see this in the CCTV from the news.
That's a little extreme.
So is £100kp/w! You expect them to show a little restraint!
I don't think you can blame the fact he's a footballer he should know better blah blah blah
The fact is if I was in a boozer and some fool was swinging I would knock him out as well, it all boils down to who threw the first punch, if it was the fella then fair play to Gerrard.
If it was Gerrards mate and then Gerrard leathered him then he should go down and be branded with the word PUSSY on his ever decreasing forehead.
The fact is if I was in a boozer and some fool was swinging I would knock him out as well, it all boils down to who threw the first punch, if it was the fella then fair play to Gerrard.
If it was Gerrards mate and then Gerrard leathered him then he should go down and be branded with the word PUSSY on his ever decreasing forehead.
Exactly, It grinds my gears when I see them smoking as well. At best they have 5 or 6 years at the very top of their game and they try to hinder that. They soon forget what an absolute dream of a job they have.
Paul Scholes could well be an alcoholic for all I know but atleast he does it in the comfort of his own surroundings. Footballers on the town is always an accident waiting to happen, especially such high profile players like Rooney Gerrard and co.
Oh dear another Liverpool fan throwing his toys of his pram
You clearly have an issue with reading too.
Did I say he's not guilty? I simply pointed out that Tummy has no idea what he's talking about because he doesn't. He doesn't even know what Gerrard's been charged with (actually he says he hasn't been charged at all) and some how can give an opinion on Gerrard's attitude that night based on nothing more than the prosecutions claims.
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