Reasons why W7 is not 'Vista with SP3'?
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Fine, to keep people like you happy I've changed it!
I've been using SP2 Vista64 for months but...
Windows 7 has
- Better SSD support
- Better GFX driver support (both nv and ati confirmed W7 dirvers get better performance on compatible hardware)
- Better Aero UI taskbar and keyboard shortcuts
- Better out of the box multimonitor/presentation support
- Better colour management for imaging pros and photographers (yay!)
- Better GFX RAM utilisation through new DWM/WDDM
- Better system RAM usage and optimisation
- Better multicore support
SP3 Vista will add a few W7 features but it won't add them all...
Windows 7 has
- Better SSD support
- Better GFX driver support (both nv and ati confirmed W7 dirvers get better performance on compatible hardware)
- Better Aero UI taskbar and keyboard shortcuts
- Better out of the box multimonitor/presentation support
- Better colour management for imaging pros and photographers (yay!)
- Better GFX RAM utilisation through new DWM/WDDM
- Better system RAM usage and optimisation
- Better multicore support
SP3 Vista will add a few W7 features but it won't add them all...
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The jaded person in me believes they didnt do it as a Service Pack for the following reasons
1) They have streamlined the core of the OS to make it smaller and more efficient. To do such a major overhaul to the "Vista" brand would be an acknowledgement that Vista was broken from the start. They have always denied that Vista was slow, a resource hog and not really fit for purpose
2) They can get more money out of people who have already bought Vista by making them get a new OS.
I reckon number 2) is always favourite in the M$ bean counters eyes...
1) They have streamlined the core of the OS to make it smaller and more efficient. To do such a major overhaul to the "Vista" brand would be an acknowledgement that Vista was broken from the start. They have always denied that Vista was slow, a resource hog and not really fit for purpose
2) They can get more money out of people who have already bought Vista by making them get a new OS.
I reckon number 2) is always favourite in the M$ bean counters eyes...
That would be the standard response from people who call MS M$ though even after they just released a new OS at over 50% discount for preorders.
If you do some reading you'll learn that MS always start work on the next Windows quickly. During the initial announcements of Vienna they said that they began working on the next Windows during Vista's cycle of life.
It's the way things go. MS is not just one big building where everything happens in one go, there are departments and teams upon teams working on different projects as per any big organisation. The next big release is always being worked on even if the current release is not entirely finished yet. It's the only way to not fall behind the competition I guess.
If you do some reading you'll learn that MS always start work on the next Windows quickly. During the initial announcements of Vienna they said that they began working on the next Windows during Vista's cycle of life.
It's the way things go. MS is not just one big building where everything happens in one go, there are departments and teams upon teams working on different projects as per any big organisation. The next big release is always being worked on even if the current release is not entirely finished yet. It's the only way to not fall behind the competition I guess.
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My guess is to fool the Vista haters into buying Windows 7. It seems to have worked as the sales have out stripped Vista already. I can for the life of me actually see what the huge difference is with W7 and Vista apart for a few (fairly useless) gimmicks really. I do love the background fade though, hate the new Virtual pc. Yes it could easily have been similar to XP's sp2 which is sort of what I feel W7 is to Vista, if you see what I mean. I certainly do not feel the urge to part with my cash for it.
Have you used 7 for more than a week?
During daily usage all the little changes add up and you begin to say "huh, that's neat!" especially the new WINKEY commands and taskbar changes. W7 certified apps have their tabs now showing in the taskbar which is great stuff.
Heck on my netbook it was a better more streamlined experience than XP.
During daily usage all the little changes add up and you begin to say "huh, that's neat!" especially the new WINKEY commands and taskbar changes. W7 certified apps have their tabs now showing in the taskbar which is great stuff.
Heck on my netbook it was a better more streamlined experience than XP.
But it is a new OS. What is your definition of 'new' OS?
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even tho W7 isn't finished yet, people have reported it to be faster than vista, especially on low spec systems like netbooks...
I think I may give W7 a go, I tried vista and didn't like it at all!
I'm not sure why people keep saying Windows 7 is a service pack. A service pack of that sort of magnitude has never - and will never - be released. Service Pack 2 for XP added/changed barely anything by comparison. If anything, it's more akin to Windows 98 SE, which funnily enough was a full release.
In the completely implausible even that 7 wasbeen a service pack, it's fair to say it wouldn't be nearly as good as 7 actually is, and it wouldn't be nearly as popular either. As far as the general ill-informed public are concerned, Vista is a wreck, and 7 isn't. Releasing 7 as a service pack would have done very little to change people's minds, the damage is already done.
And in any case, MS are a business, so they're not going to give away hugely expensive things like this for free.
In the completely implausible even that 7 wasbeen a service pack, it's fair to say it wouldn't be nearly as good as 7 actually is, and it wouldn't be nearly as popular either. As far as the general ill-informed public are concerned, Vista is a wreck, and 7 isn't. Releasing 7 as a service pack would have done very little to change people's minds, the damage is already done.
And in any case, MS are a business, so they're not going to give away hugely expensive things like this for free.
Eh?
No they haven't. W7's initial presales overtook Vista's seventeen week presales within eight hours. This is not the same as overall sales, especially if you count OEMs.
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In terms of the underlying technology and changes, Windows 7 is a relatively small step forward compared to Windows Vista. Windows Vista was radically overhauled and is considered one of the biggest changes that the NT platform has ever seen. Despite many misinformed opinions, Windows Vista was an extremely important release. Windows 7 is improving on the technology's from Windows Vista and maintaining compatibility.
In terms of my opinion on Windows 7, this is my response from the Will You Buy Windows 7??? thread.
Though, I still accept that Windows 7 is simply much more than a service pack to Windows Vista.
In terms of my opinion on Windows 7, this is my response from the Will You Buy Windows 7??? thread.
Though, I still accept that Windows 7 is simply much more than a service pack to Windows Vista.
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That was my point. Not over all sales as Vista has been out 2 1/2 years or so.
I have used W7 on three of my machines for several days. I found the annoying intermittent pauses a little too much to put up with. I also found it a little less satble than Vista as it is yet to mature. I might give it another go after it's been out a while and been patched etc. I have been running it since build 7000 was released and I don't think the features are "neat" or useful as such. I do like the new media centre but I dont really use it that often as I have a VM STB and prefer VLC or media player.
what pauses? if youre seeing those plus reliability issues id check your drivers, there is some underlying issue there.
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