VW Golf Mk6 GTD - opinions?

[Alex UK]

Any chance to start an argument though

 

[unclelonghair]

Interesting point about refinement. A friend has the Mk.5 equivalent.

The GT Sport or whatever it was called. Anyway it has the same engine.

The first comment he made getting in my Clio 100bhp diesel was that it was more refined than his Golf.

Alex, as I think you have spotted. If the car in question isn't an E39 5 Series Fox isn't interested.

It isn't the same engine - the Mk VI has the new common rail diesel which is supposed to be more refined.

 

[Fr0dders]

he's got a point though.

You've taken the hump and started a long argument over nothing. ANd gone down the usual route of saying fox is only interested in bmws

yet he's agreed that the car in question is a decent car.

Like he's already said, its a diesel hatchback. There are loads of other petrol cars that would be better, but they arent on the company car list.

 

[OllyM]

If Fox hadn't posted in this thread, even if somebody else had said exactly the same, those posts wouldn't have been made - I'd put money on that!

 

[Alex UK]

ANd gone down the usual route of saying fox is only interested in bmws

When did I say that?

If Fox hadn't posted in this thread, even if somebody else had said exactly the same, those posts wouldn't have been made - I'd put money on that!

Well, you're wrong. The fact that Fox posted had nothing to do with my response. I've nothing against him - 95% of the time he speaks absolute sense (albeit in a rather blunt and unemotional way ). I don't know why everyone seems to think I'm having a go at him specifically - I'm not, I just picked up on something he said, that's all.

 

[Ste]

Hi

These sort of threads always bring out differences of opinion - nothing wrong with that!

I'm inclined to agree with most of the posts about the GT being a bit 'dull', but from a relative standpoint - I love the ST (probably far more than it's worth!) and none of these company cars are going to compare. If I had the choice, I'd be taking the money and using it to offset the running cost.

Fact is, I can get a lower spec car (even if I go for a big Passat) for 'free' (something below the allowable lease price, such that the savings offset the BIK tax and the net cost to me is 0). If I consider doing this, I'd have a £10k ST for a weekend toy - and that doesn't make sense - I could get an Elise S2 (just) or something far less compromised for weekend fun. I'll probably end up saving the money towards a house deposit though, so it would be nice to have something that's a reasonable all rounder...

Fox is right in that the GTD is the best of a relatively dull bunch. I guess my question is, will this be *so* far removed from the 'fun' driving experience that I have with the ST that I might as well go for a high spec Passat/Octavia/Avensis and forget about the fun side of things?

Ho hum!

 

[Ste]

Oh, and the 1.4 TSi (turbo) is on the car list (low CO2) and is 160bhp - but I'm guessing it's not the torque of the ST/GTD, and I'd definately miss that!

Also...

"While the petrol vRS would be more tuneful and better matched to the DSG paddles, the diesel version provides bags of zip when it’s needed most, and with a combined cycle economy figure of 49.6mpg and emitting 159g/km of CO2 it can be frugal as well as fiery. At £20,165 on the road the vRS is £3580 cheaper than the comparable Golf GTD, and now the Octavia’s styling is mostly up to scratch it makes an awful lot of sense."

It's half the monthly cost of the Golf... but hard to see past the badge (owning a Skoda for the next 3years!)

 

[Alex UK]

Personally I'd go for a cheaper company car and then get something fun for the weekend. An Octy vRS (diesel) seems the best option - it's as quick as the GTD, still good to drive and most importantly allows you to run a weekend car if you wish. Now you just have to get over the badge!

 

[Dogbreath]

Oh, and the 1.4 TSi (turbo) is on the car list (low CO2) and is 160bhp - but I'm guessing it's not the torque of the ST/GTD, and I'd definately miss that!

Please don't assume that simply because the ST and the Golf have comparable peak torque that they will have similar power delivery! Slow revving diesels need high gearing, and all the lovely torque the engine is producing is greatly reduced by the time it reaches the wheels compared to a turbo'd petrol engine.

I'd say Fox is exactly right, it's certainly the 'best' car of the choices you've been given, but whether it's worth the extra money only you can decide.

 

[OllyM]

Look long and hard at the Octavia vRS - if it's half the monthly cost you could perhaps add some options, xenons and climate control or something and still come out quids in

 

[Peerzy]

Personally I'd go for a cheaper company car and then get something fun for the weekend. An Octy vRS (diesel) seems the best option - it's as quick as the GTD, still good to drive and most importantly allows you to run a weekend car if you wish. Now you just have to get over the badge!

This.

I'd rather do 30k in a Mondeo sized car than a Golf, get something comfy and good to cruise in and don't worry about the badge. Grab a project car or old Golf GTi or something and play about with that in your spare time.

 

[Diesel]

I'd have the vRS, but then I am a Skoda fanboy!

 

[Participant]

Its not great...but I doubt you'll find much in its class thats appreciably better

So it's not great even though it's best in class. Oxymoron anyone?

By that ethos a 3 /5 series BMW isn't great either even though it's potentially best in class and you have wet dreams about them every night, since there are better cars existing on the planet. It's only possible to speak about cars in relative terms so comments such as 'Its [sic] not great' protract the view that your posts often consist of inane drivel. Are you sure you're not Jeremy Clarkson in disguise?

If Fox hadn't posted in this thread, even if somebody else had said exactly the same, those posts wouldn't have been made - I'd put money on that!

Maybe that says more about Fox than anyone else.

 

[iaind]

I really like the new golfs and the 2.0 TDI engines are very good, but for double the monthly cost I'd find it really difficult to justify one over the Skoda

 

[FTM]

skoda comes with dual climate as standard (if its the new facelift model) but you can can get full leather on the options list now as well as the xenons

bear in mind a brand new vrs is just over 16 grand at the moment

as compared to the identically perfofming GTD at just under 22 grand on the road (actually if you want the same spec as the Vrs you have to choose 18's and cruise control as options giving you a list price of 23,025 versus 16630 for a brand new vrs)

strangely the leather option on the golf is double the skoda price and the touch screen radio thats standard in the skoda is an option on the golf, but the ipod mdi thats sists in the glove box is standard on the gold and its an option on the skoda...VAG has a wierd way of settling for standard kit across their ranges

 

[Tute]

Without a doubt i'd have the 1.4TSI Golf over the GTD. It's a frugal little engine but really good fun to drive, and whilst it's certainly no Focus ST I think it provides a decent choice between it and the GTD.

 

[LiE]

The 1.4TSI is a nice little engine, I'd opt for this too.

 

[FTM]

a lot of people think so, VAG are having trouble keeping up with demand!

 

[[TW]Fox]

So it's not great even though it's best in class. Oxymoron anyone?

Well no it just means its a class which is not one filled with particularly great cars.

By that ethos a 3 /5 series BMW isn't great either even though it's potentially best in class and you have wet dreams about them every night, since there are better cars existing on the planet.

Whilst I appreciate the fact you blew 17 grand on a grey rental car means you need to convince yourself its awesome at every opportunity can you not do it in a less ridiculous way? Wet dreams about bmw? With comments like that are you sure its not your mums Golf?

 

[Janesy B]

Now now kiddies, play nice.