Spec me a cabriolet...

With children in the back you should never be doing the sorts of speeds to bring the question of which wheels are driven into play.

I'm not getting this 4WD thing is safer tbh. Even in the snow 4WD is no safer - you can't stop quicker with 4WD than any other format.
 
If 4WD is going to be safer to drive in the wet when you have precious cargo in the rear seats then that would be preferable over a RWD.

You don't tend to drive on the limit in the wet with precious cargo, do you?

I have never had an issue with RWD when driving normally. All the times I've had the back step out are when I've been driving in a manner that wouldn't be becoming of somebody driving with precious cargo.

My girlfriend, for example, has never felt what its like to have DSC kick in when she has been in my car. Unless you are a complete noggin, I rather suspect the same will be the case for you.
 
With children in the back you should never be doing the sorts of speeds to bring the question of which wheels are driven into play.

I'm not getting this 4WD thing is safer tbh. Even in the snow 4WD is no safer - you can't stop quicker with 4WD than any other format.

With kids in the back, I'd probably always go 4WD rather than FWD/RWD. I don't always think you've got to be doing silly speeds to appreciate the extra traction.
 
'tis true.
drive appropriately for the conditions and you shouldn't have any problems

I'm not getting this 4WD thing is safer tbh. Even in the snow 4WD is no safer - you can't stop quicker with 4WD than any other format.
perhaps not regarding stopping, but 4wd makes a massive difference on snow. even on summer tyres i made good progress whereas i would have been spinning the rears and going nowhere in a rwd
 
With kids in the back, I'd probably always go 4WD rather than FWD/RWD. I don't always think you've got to be doing silly speeds to appreciate the extra traction.

There's TONS of traction in a RWD car when doing child cargo speeds.

Plus almost all newish RWD cars have DSC and TC to step in to control the unexpected.

Just seems odd to me, coming from a lot of experience of AWD FWD and RWD cars and having children.

Horses for courses n all that.
 
perhaps not regarding stopping, but 4wd makes a massive difference on snow. even on summer tyres i made good progress whereas i would have been spinning the rears and going nowhere in a rwd

I agree with you, but the question wasn't "does 4WD make a difference in the snow" - the point was he said "it's safer".

So, how is it safer?
 
There's TONS of traction in a RWD car when doing child cargo speeds.

Plus almost all newish RWD cars have DSC and TC to step in to control the unexpected.

Just seems odd to me, coming from a lot of experience of AWD FWD and RWD cars and having children.

Horses for courses n all that.

Not disagreeing with you at all - in an ideal world you wouldn't even need DSC in your car with kids because you wouldn't be driving in that manner, but I think all these things are helpful, moreso when you are carrying children. I wouldn't go out my way to get a different car if one I liked was RWD/FWD only, but the A5 is available as FWD or Quattro, with kids I'd go for quattro.
 
I wouldn't go out my way to get a different car if one I liked was RWD/FWD only, but the A5 is available as FWD or Quattro, with kids I'd go for quattro.

Me too but because FWD is crap not because Quattro is suddenly going to make any difference at all to safety in normal driving. Infact its more likely that Quattro is more dangerous in bad weather the amount of burks I've had go hammering past at stupid speeds in filthy weather because they've got a Quattro badge on the back of their diesel Audi so the rain doesnt matter..
 
Me and my brother both grew up with our parents driving RWD cars, in fact neither have owned anything but RWD motors.

Three of the four cars on our drive are RWD (brother letting the side down :p), and none of us have fallen off the road.
 
I agree with you, but the question wasn't "does 4WD make a difference in the snow" - the point was he said "it's safer".

So, how is it safer?

you have much more control of the car when all 4 wheels are doing the driving.
therefore you have much more chance of correcting a slide with 4wd than with 2wd.
also, if you run off the road slightly (as happened a few times in norway, oncoming traffic on narrow roads), 2 driving wheels remain on the road, not 1. i managed to get back on the road a few times, whereas my mate in his 2wd golf got stuck in the rut with no chance of getting free without a tow

obviously that's an extreme example, but the amount of increased control in general with 4wd is no doubt safer.
but seeing as you're all in the UK, this isn't really applicable seeing as you only get bothered by snow 1 week a year ;)
 
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Me too but because FWD is crap not because Quattro is suddenly going to make any difference at all to safety in normal driving.

Nowt wrong with FWD! I must say I prefer RWD, closely followed by Quattro (haven't driven any other AWD variants, but I presume they are all similar), but I'd disagree that FWD is crap.
 
Not disagreeing with you at all - in an ideal world you wouldn't even need DSC in your car with kids because you wouldn't be driving in that manner, but I think all these things are helpful, moreso when you are carrying children. I wouldn't go out my way to get a different car if one I liked was RWD/FWD only, but the A5 is available as FWD or Quattro, with kids I'd go for quattro.

Doesn't account for other things outside your input actions, for example:

Oil / fuel on the road
Other road users you need to swerve
Standing water deeper than expected
Blah Blah Blah

In all these situations ESP / DSC or whatever you want to call it can bail you out and they can add another safetynet to protect your children.
 
[TW]Fox;14611782 said:
Me too but because FWD is crap not because Quattro is suddenly going to make any difference at all to safety in normal driving. Infact its more likely that Quattro is more dangerous in bad weather the amount of burks I've had go hammering past at stupid speeds in filthy weather because they've got a Quattro badge on the back of their diesel Audi so the rain doesnt matter..


Thats true, an idiot inspired by a quatro is a worse idiot.

However driven normally you would think that 4 wheels gripping has to be better than 2 no?
 
Doesn't account for other things outside your input actions, for example:

Oil / fuel on the road
Other road users you need to swerve
Standing water deeper than expected
Blah Blah Blah

In all these situations ESP / DSC or whatever you want to call it can bail you out and they can add another safetynet to protect your children.

As can quattro, which was my point!
 
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