Undeniable proof UFO's are Real?

titchard · 5 Aug 2009 at 14:14

I like the Youtube videos they are great - but one question:

Why do they only seem to become seen by people with poor video equipment and always without a tripod? Those pesky aliens! They are taunting those with lower incomes unable to purchase a steadycam!

Seriously Magick give it a rest, you come across really, REALLY deluded - you'd do better if you actually supplied some decent tangible evidence to your paranoid rants.

Rich

Casdawer · 5 Aug 2009 at 14:35

Alien UFO's do exist.

The problem is that there are too many hoaxses out there, so as soon as there is a real sighting people will just say it's fake.

Oh well.

oli collett · 5 Aug 2009 at 14:50

Casdawer said:
The problem is that there are too many hoaxses out there

No, the problem is lack of evidence. I don't think Magick, Teki or any other "believers" have any understanding of what evidence means.

Spektor · 5 Aug 2009 at 17:56

oli collett said:
No, the problem is lack of evidence. I don't think Magick, Teki or any other "believers" have any understanding of what evidence means.

Evidence is merely an idea you like enough to want it to be true, silly.

mattheman · 5 Aug 2009 at 20:14

There is life on other planets, and they have visited us, not so long ago they were saying there wasnt any water on mars and now there is.

Monkey Puzzle · 5 Aug 2009 at 21:17

mattheman said:
There is life on other planets, and they have visited us, not so long ago they were saying there wasnt any water on mars and now there is.

Are you suggesting Obama put water on Mars?! The crafty swine! :mad:

Raikiri · 5 Aug 2009 at 21:21

mattheman said:
not so long ago they were saying there wasnt any water on mars and now there is.

Translated into sane: Not so long ago they hadn't found traces of water on mars, now they have.

Tefal · 5 Aug 2009 at 21:22

mattheman said:
There is life on other planets, and they have visited us,

Did you do some maths to prove it?

LOAM · 5 Aug 2009 at 21:27

Tefal said:
Did you do some maths to prove it?

indeed, what percentage of Mars is water ?

semi-pro waster · 5 Aug 2009 at 21:27

Casdawer said:
Alien UFO's do exist.

The problem is that there are too many hoaxses out there, so as soon as there is a real sighting people will just say it's fake.

Oh well.

You say that with a fair degree of certainty, as if it is a fact when as far as I can tell it is merely conjecture unless you've got some irrefutable proof that you've been saving for just the proper occasion?

mattheman said:
There is life on other planets, and they have visited us, not so long ago they were saying there wasnt any water on mars and now there is.

I'm not entirely sure that people were saying there was no water on Mars, simply as Raikiri says that it hadn't been found at that point or possibly that it was unlikely - it's not quite the same thing.

And while we're on the subject of not being the same thing just because one thing has been proved after being said to be unlikely (or whatever it was noted as) doesn't automatically lend credence to all other theories that haven't yet been proven either way.

Raikiri · 5 Aug 2009 at 21:39

LOAM said:
indeed, what percentage of Mars is water ?

The 1% of mars that had been tested contained 5% water, therefore the planet is 500% water. That's how NASA work it out don't ya know?

No1newts · 5 Aug 2009 at 21:56

Magick and Teki in the same thread :rolleyes:

I think we should just set the two of them off on some random discussion and see where the thread ends up, Would be hilarious reading.

Whilst I would like to believe that there is something else out there in the universe the chance of it actually happening (was watching some program that said the odds of Earth coming about as it is was actually billions to one) and the chance that some other form of life would be advanced enough to come out to find us never mind finding the proverbial needle in a haystack that Earth is in the galaxy.

Well suffice to say true belief in this area should just be left to Teki, Magick and the tinfoil hat brigade

Tefal · 5 Aug 2009 at 22:09

No1newts said:
Magick and Teki in the same thread

magick's alright. I know I've ridiculed him in the past but he's always polite and well written.

And his beliefs are no more silly than believing in a benevolent zombie who will grant you immortality if you eat his flesh.

He's much more polite and coherent than the religious nuts we get on here.

Althoguh i think he really needs to make one big post/ thread where he explains how all the groups/ theories are linked/explained.

No1newts · 5 Aug 2009 at 22:16

Tefal said:
magick's alright. I know I've ridiculed him in the past but he's always polite and well written.

And his beliefs are no more silly than believing in a benevolent zombie who will grant you immortality if you eat his flesh.

He's much more polite and coherent than the religious nuts we get on here.

Althoguh i think he really needs to make one big post/ thread where he explains how all the groups/ theories are linked/explained.

The grand conspiracy thread!

Please make sure you provide zero proof for any of your claims, all claims must be so outrageous that anyone reading bursts into laughter. Anyone posting any form of evidence in this thread will be perma-banned. The CIA is watching this thread...

oli collett · 5 Aug 2009 at 22:45

Raikiri said:
The 1% of mars that had been tested contained 5% water, therefore the planet is 500% water. That's how NASA work it out don't ya know?

Yeah but you're not taking into account the RDA of water. Which is 11, which makes the end result 106849.2.44.5

No1newts said:
The grand conspiracy thread!

Please make sure you provide zero proof for any of your claims, all claims must be so outrageous that anyone reading bursts into laughter. Anyone posting any form of evidence in this thread will be perma-banned. The CIA is watching this thread...

Sounds good, and can we just keep them in there? Or even have a separate forum for them?

magick · 5 Aug 2009 at 22:48

Tefal said:
magick's alright. I know I've ridiculed him in the past but he's always polite and well written.

And his beliefs are no more silly than believing in a benevolent zombie who will grant you immortality if you eat his flesh.

He's much more polite and coherent than the religious nuts we get on here.

Althoguh i think he really needs to make one big post/ thread where he explains how all the groups/ theories are linked/explained.

Thanks for heads up Tefal

Regarding how all the conspiracies link together I did that a bit last night in the WTC thread.

magick · 5 Aug 2009 at 22:51

No1newts said:
Magick and Teki in the same thread

I think we should just set the two of them off on some random discussion and see where the thread ends up, Would be hilarious reading.

Whilst I would like to believe that there is something else out there in the universe the chance of it actually happening (was watching some program that said the odds of Earth coming about as it is was actually billions to one) and the chance that some other form of life would be advanced enough to come out to find us never mind finding the proverbial needle in a haystack that Earth is in the galaxy.

Well suffice to say true belief in this area should just be left to Teki, Magick and the tinfoil hat brigade

'Watching some program' and taking it as a definitive authority on the probability of life appearing on earth and the possiblity of ETs doesn't mean it's accurate.

No1newts · 5 Aug 2009 at 23:25

magick said:
'Watching some program' and taking it as a definitive authority on the probability of life appearing on earth and the possiblity of ETs doesn't mean it's accurate.

Didn't say it was definitive, just that it helped highlight how unlikely the chances of these things happening are.

It was a lot more convincing then the reems of (non)existing evidence that there is that supports the theory of life on other planets and that it has "visited" us.

peetee · 6 Aug 2009 at 01:09

mattheman said:
There is life on other planets, and they have visited us, not so long ago they were saying there wasnt any water on mars and now there is.

It must be the dentists, thats why they stole your teeth, theyre using them to terraform mars. Damn I wish the rest of us were clever enough to realise all this stuff from the conclusive evidence thats right infront of us.

P.S. I work on radars, I see UFOs quite a bit, but then they identify themselves, and become FOs.. boring ey?

ShaolinDreams · 6 Aug 2009 at 01:27

i saw 2 UFOs and something that appeared to be a shooter star/small meteorite at close range. the funny thing was that i had a few beers but my friend who also witnessed the 3 sightings was stone cold sober!!!

bloody weird night...