Surely life closer to the edge of the known Universe would be older, those closer to the middle would be younger.
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Surely life closer to the edge of the known Universe would be older, those closer to the middle would be younger.
I was also thinking this, because of how the universe is expanding. The greater the distance travelled from the 'centre', the longer the body has been around, surely?
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It is very hard to calculate the possibility of carbon based life that is similar to ours as we are the only known examples.
It is possible that non carbon base life exists but with no known examples it is even harder to calculate the possibility.
Planets closer to the centre of the universe might be older but it doesn't mean life or intelligent life has evolved, if dinosaurs hadn't been wiped out would they have become intelligent at all or as quick as it took mammals.
Life that is nothing like ours is even harder to imagine, the timescale of evolution might be much faster or slower so they could be really advanced.
There isn't any proof of God or non carbon based life but either can't be ruled out or proved for now.
It is possible that non carbon base life exists but with no known examples it is even harder to calculate the possibility.
Planets closer to the centre of the universe might be older but it doesn't mean life or intelligent life has evolved, if dinosaurs hadn't been wiped out would they have become intelligent at all or as quick as it took mammals.
Life that is nothing like ours is even harder to imagine, the timescale of evolution might be much faster or slower so they could be really advanced.
There isn't any proof of God or non carbon based life but either can't be ruled out or proved for now.
True but then I wouldn't underestimate our understanding of the periodic table either. Like the main problem for silicon based life-forms breathing oxygen would be respiration. When silicon oxidizes it produces silicon dioxide. So I really couldn't see how this creature would live if it releases a solid everytime it breathes.
How is that even possible? They'll be older the further they are away from the centre.
Everything is going to be pretty much the same age throughout the universe, it's expanding rather continuously having new bits added to it.
Carbon chemistry just works, non-carbon based life just doesn't seem to work due to basic chemistry issues. The complexity of carbon molecules required for life isn't replicated with any other element.
problem is no one knows were the center is, however the center of a galaxy we know.
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I find it incredible people do not believe in other life forms, especially considering the size of the universe, it's so large I doubt the human brain can even truly contemplate the size of it.
We know for certain life has happened at least once, hence we are here! so the chances of it happening again considering the apparent infinite space and large time scales, I would classify as mathematically almost certain.
Ignoring the various UFO sighting/abductions/evidence etc...All too often people use the apparent lack of evidence, as evidence that Aliens do not exist. There is no evidence that disproves the existence of Extra Terrestrial Identities, so in theory any opinion or view that takes any stance other than neutral is ill logical.
Various documents and evidence has come from extremely reliable sources, such as highly decorated pilots, military generals and officials, police officers and council officials and I agree that 99% can be explained, but that 1% for me proves that Aliens must exist.
Analogy for you, I think of it like this; if we had the technology for space travel etc... and we discovered an Alien race on another planet, would we monitor them? there would be a huge ethical and moral debate but eventually science and curiosity would almost certainly ensure we did. For this I believe Aliens are using the same philosophy, they are probably using extremely advanced technologies to monitor and watch us, perhaps for nothing more than curiosity. My theory is; now and again there technologies either fail or they have underestimated our technological capabilities to monitor them through advanced imaging: such as Thermal and Infra red, evident in the Mexican Government Drug Cartel Monitoring report.
In my opinion there is too much evidence from credible sources, that either prove that Aliens/UFO's are a real phenomena or that what we are witnessing is a natural event, in which proves we have failed in the understanding of physics.
Do I want to believe in aliens, yes. Does this mean I will blindly believe for the sake of it, No. I m a science type of person, I require evidence and explanations to believe in something, the problem we have on earth is credibility of information. Besides, up until recently the UK Government believed in UFO's hence the reason all the information was classified, perhaps the reason they have 'come clean' is not because Aliens/UFO's do not exist, but because people have become so familiar with the concept it may no longer be a threat to national security or it may be a deliberate disinformation exercise, feeding us little bits of information, but keeping the juicy information secret.
Besides, even if we are the only existing life forms in existence, it is likely in the following millions of years technology will become so developed, Robotics and Artificial Intelligence will be at such an advanced level, it will almost certainly be an insult to call it 'artificial' and robots and 'created' life forms will probably gain the rights and protection that we humans already take for granted. Thus creating a separate 'Type' of life form, differing from the normal biological.
As technology develops we are likely to start exploring space, at some point in the distant future we will start inhabiting other planets and even other galaxies; humans will be so wide spread, over further millions or perhaps billions of years; humans will evolve, develop and mutate differently in accordance with their new habitat and surroundings, perhaps the mutations will be so-vast catalysed by billions of years, they could be classed as Aliens in comparison to their ancestors (us!), in their own right. (After all what is a human defined as?)
Edit, just noticed I have differed from the original argument, I would address my opinion on that, but I have to get ready to go out now, off down the pub (it's Saturday night).
We know for certain life has happened at least once, hence we are here! so the chances of it happening again considering the apparent infinite space and large time scales, I would classify as mathematically almost certain.
Ignoring the various UFO sighting/abductions/evidence etc...All too often people use the apparent lack of evidence, as evidence that Aliens do not exist. There is no evidence that disproves the existence of Extra Terrestrial Identities, so in theory any opinion or view that takes any stance other than neutral is ill logical.
Various documents and evidence has come from extremely reliable sources, such as highly decorated pilots, military generals and officials, police officers and council officials and I agree that 99% can be explained, but that 1% for me proves that Aliens must exist.
Analogy for you, I think of it like this; if we had the technology for space travel etc... and we discovered an Alien race on another planet, would we monitor them? there would be a huge ethical and moral debate but eventually science and curiosity would almost certainly ensure we did. For this I believe Aliens are using the same philosophy, they are probably using extremely advanced technologies to monitor and watch us, perhaps for nothing more than curiosity. My theory is; now and again there technologies either fail or they have underestimated our technological capabilities to monitor them through advanced imaging: such as Thermal and Infra red, evident in the Mexican Government Drug Cartel Monitoring report.
In my opinion there is too much evidence from credible sources, that either prove that Aliens/UFO's are a real phenomena or that what we are witnessing is a natural event, in which proves we have failed in the understanding of physics.
Do I want to believe in aliens, yes. Does this mean I will blindly believe for the sake of it, No. I m a science type of person, I require evidence and explanations to believe in something, the problem we have on earth is credibility of information. Besides, up until recently the UK Government believed in UFO's hence the reason all the information was classified, perhaps the reason they have 'come clean' is not because Aliens/UFO's do not exist, but because people have become so familiar with the concept it may no longer be a threat to national security or it may be a deliberate disinformation exercise, feeding us little bits of information, but keeping the juicy information secret.
Besides, even if we are the only existing life forms in existence, it is likely in the following millions of years technology will become so developed, Robotics and Artificial Intelligence will be at such an advanced level, it will almost certainly be an insult to call it 'artificial' and robots and 'created' life forms will probably gain the rights and protection that we humans already take for granted. Thus creating a separate 'Type' of life form, differing from the normal biological.
As technology develops we are likely to start exploring space, at some point in the distant future we will start inhabiting other planets and even other galaxies; humans will be so wide spread, over further millions or perhaps billions of years; humans will evolve, develop and mutate differently in accordance with their new habitat and surroundings, perhaps the mutations will be so-vast catalysed by billions of years, they could be classed as Aliens in comparison to their ancestors (us!), in their own right. (After all what is a human defined as?)
Edit, just noticed I have differed from the original argument, I would address my opinion on that, but I have to get ready to go out now, off down the pub (it's Saturday night).
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I recall one of my physics lessons where we were told that no matter where we are, stuff is always moving away from us? So no matter where you are in the Universe, it would seem as if you are at the centre.
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I only did GCSE science so obviouly my knowlede is lacking but isn't it a popular theory that there was a big bang an the universe is expanding outwards from this point and is semi proven by red shift and stuff.
so while the matter is the same age the actual formed planets and solar systems would be newer the further out you go generally. either way it doesn't relly make life unlike or own any less or more likely.
I don't think aliens have visited us. if they had we would know.
I don't understand why people think aliens would come this far to anal probe a few drunks.
so while the matter is the same age the actual formed planets and solar systems would be newer the further out you go generally. either way it doesn't relly make life unlike or own any less or more likely.
I don't think aliens have visited us. if they had we would know.
I don't understand why people think aliens would come this far to anal probe a few drunks.
any complex molecule HAS to carbon based - it is totally unique, and whilst silicon has some 'slightly' similar properties there is no way it going to happen in reality.
i see no reason why life cannot exist without oxygen (it already does) or even water (no known example), but the elements involved are so common, and due to the fusion process, they are equally common throughout the universe - it is extremely doubtful that any life would be based on anything other than carbon and possibly water - whether oxygen is required is debatable, but i doubt it.
i see no reason why life cannot exist without oxygen (it already does) or even water (no known example), but the elements involved are so common, and due to the fusion process, they are equally common throughout the universe - it is extremely doubtful that any life would be based on anything other than carbon and possibly water - whether oxygen is required is debatable, but i doubt it.
If everything was created at the same time there would be a higher chance of finding like more advanced life than ours looking inwards as there would be more systems closer together, however if there were time lapses in the creation process at the center then we would be looking away from the center.
because outside of star trek, the concept of an energy based life form is moronic.
Everything wasn't created at the same time though, was it? By the time our own Sun had even formed countless other stars had already been created, lived their life and died.
Just because we do not know what it is, we can not say it is alien. I have seen no evidence for alien UFOs. I don't see how for you hat proves aliens. They are Unidentified flying objects.
I do believe aliens exist out there somewhere. Visited us, highly unlikely and so far no proof. Lot's of proof of UFOs but none of ET origin.
it depends on the size and how much fuel they have to burn. there are other theories about multi big bangs etc..
