So baby P's parents and killers have been named...

[Cosimo]

They've shown a flipping picture of them, changing their names won't keep them save

Probably so that they can get some special attention in jail.

 

[RDM]

I wish I could believe that.

From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_P#Conviction

They were all pretty much given life and can only be released if they no longer pose a danger. Given the nature of their crimes I really do doubt that they will ever be released.

 

[Fenris]

In a separate court case, Barker was also given a life sentence for raping a two-year-old girl.

.....

Seriousely these 3 are going to be killed in prison.

 

[dirtydog]

There is no guarantee that prisoners won't be attacked short of being placed in solitary which rarely happens as I understand.

Peter Sutcliffe, Myra Hindley etc have attacked at some point.

They are safer than they would be in the general prison population is all I mean

 

[dirtydog]

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Seriousely these 3 are going to be killed in prison.

There's lots of delightful people like that in prison, it doesn't mean they all get killed there.

 

[Jonny]

Concurrent sentencing is also a stupid idea in my book. Ten years for the rape and 12 years for the murder are to be served concurrently - he should have to serve them both separately

 

[Adsta]

RELEASE THE HOUNDS !

 

[wez130]

our justice system sucks big time

 

[djay]

If ever there was a case for the death penalty, this was it. Can anyone give me a good reason why these three deserve their freedom again one day?

100% agree.

 

[mcalladine]

me too

 

[Glaucus]

So the judge has lifted a ban on hiding the identity of the killers, but on the flipside, they will be given new identities to protect them when released from prison. Is a prison sentence enough for a couple like this who terrorised the baby with their pet rotweiller.

Probably not, but that's the sentence they got which are law allows. once they are released they have served there time and as such should be allowed to live a life like the rest of us.

And their identitys had to be hid till at least after the trials. So a fair trial and for there safety. Now they are behind bars and safe the bans been lifted.

 

[RDM]

What would killing them actually acheive though? Baby Peter would still be dead.

 

[dirtydog]

Probably not, but that's the sentence they got which are law allows. once they are released they have served there time and as such should be allowed to live a life like the rest of us.

I agree with this as it happens; they did a terrible thing but once they have served the punishment they have been given, that ought to be the end of it.

Now they are behind bars and safe

Not sure I agree with your logic there though (prison isn't a safe place)

 

[Duke]

What would killing them actually acheive though? Baby Peter would still be dead.

Stop it happening again, act as a deterrent to others..

 

[Von Smallhausen]

I agree with this as it happens; they did a terrible thing but once they have served the punishment they have been given, that ought to be the end of it.

What about restrictions on them after release ?

 

[RDM]

Stop it happening again, act as a deterrent to others..

Hasn't the deterent effect of the death penalty been pretty much debunked? The vast majority of murderers either think they are not going to get caught anway or aren't really thinking of the consequences of their actions. States which have the death penalty do not tend to have lower murder rates either. So the deterrent factor is non-existent. Locking them up for life will also stop them doing it again. So why kill them?

 

[me227]

I'm not one to go baying for blood when these things come around but i'm still for the death penalty.

Not from a revenge point of view but from a punishment point of view and to remove these people from society without the cost of jailing them.

Only in cases where it's very obvious they're guilty though.

 

[Azagoth]

DEM PPL WLL SN B WIV DA DEVILZ ND DEMONZ IN HLL ND BABBY P IN HEVAN WIV DA ANGLES

 

[The Mad Rapper]

Why would a 15 year old go out with a 37 year old?

Groomed?

 

[dirtydog]

Stop it happening again, act as a deterrent to others..

Long prison sentences and the very real threat of getting attacked or killed by members of the public or fellow prisoners didn't deter these people so why should the death penalty. Just as there are plenty of capital crimes committed in countries which do have the death penalty.