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Rainmaker

Rainmaker

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...from UK Online LLU. Not bad so far! Web browsing feels "snappier" for some weird reason too, very much so actually. Anyway, I'm happy :) The following stats are taken after almost a day, and an awful lot of GB of throughput ;)

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DSL Type:G.992.5 Annex M US 56 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:2,178 / 20,369 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]:0.00 / 0.00 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:13.0 / 18.5 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:11.0 / 21.0 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:4.0 / 5.5 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Vendor ID (Local/Remote):TMMB / BDCM [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):38 / 0 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):4 / 0 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):0 / 0 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Loss of Link (Remote):0 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):10 / 0 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
FEC Errors (Up/Down):145 / 0 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
CRC Errors (Up/Down):145 / 94 [IMG]http://192.168.1.254/images/spacer.gif[/IMG] 
HEC Errors (Up/Down):210 / 45
That's on fastpath btw. Yay for Be Pro :D
 
Use the member centre and switch to a 3db profile, theres some more to be extracted from your line yet :p
 
Be have set me to fastpath and 3dB, it keeps creeping back up though for some reason. I'm not that keen on the 575v7 - I'm going to dig out my DG today I think. :)
 
The router should actually say one way or the other. Guessing based on a number of FEC errors, especially given the error counters on the O2/Be Boxes are often wrong (and if we want to play this game, by plenty "personal experience" too...), is by no means conclusive.

If it was any other router, I'd normally agree though - FEC errors should only appear with interleaving enabled because you can only have Forward Error Correction if it's enabled :p
 
Copy the routers stats into this, although it doesn't seem too happy with your line :S Actually i copied the stats from the top there:

BlueEther's Stats Checker said:
BlueEther.net's stats checker thinks my line is made of some welsh hill farmers old fence.
Can you help me fix my line?

http://adsl.blueether.net/yourstats.php?statsID=6350
The Summary said:
You are on ADSL2+
You are on Upload Plus
Great down sync speed for your line length of 1,522m.
SNR is good.
Attenuation looks normal.
Output power looks normal.
There have been 38 local resyncs.
There have been 4 local loss of signal.
There are at least some error seconds (upstream*).
There are CRC errors.
There are HEC errors.
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Uptime:		0h 00m 00s 
Modulation:	G.992.5 - Fastpath on Annex M
			(Up Stream)	/	(Down Stream)
Sync:				2178	/	20369
Data Transferred:	0.00 kB	/	0.00 kB
Attenuation:	11	/	21
SN Margin:		4	/	5.5
Power:			13	/	18.5
Vendor:		TMMB	/	BDCM
Modem:			TG585v7
LoF:				38	/	0
LoS:				4	/	0
Error Sec.:	10	/	0
FEC:			145	/	0
CRC:			145	/	94
HEC:			210	/	45
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I just carried out the above stats checker with today's readings (having been up a while now). Although it confirms fastpath, it sounds like something's wrong somewhere :\

BlueEther's Stats Checker said:
BlueEther.net's stats checker thinks my line is made of two tin cans and a bit of wet string
Can you help me fix my line?

http://adsl.blueether.net/yourstats.php?statsID=6371
The Summary said:
You are on ADSL2+
You are on Upload Plus
Great down sync speed for your line length of 1,522m.
SN margins vary by too much.
Attenuation looks normal.
Output power looks normal.
There have been 75 local resyncs.
There have been 8 local loss of signal.
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Code: 
Uptime:        31h 28m 09s 
Modulation:    G.992.5 - Fastpath on Annex M
            (Up Stream)    /    (Down Stream)
Sync:                2178    /    21308
Data Transferred:    0.00 kB    /    0.00 kB
Attenuation:    11    /    21
SN Margin:        4    /    1
Power:            13    /    18.5
Vendor:        TMMB    /    BDCM
Modem:            TG585v7
LoF:                75    /    0
LoS:                8    /    0
Error Sec.:    24    /    0
FEC:            304    /    0
CRC:            304    /    325
HEC:            1083    /    181
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By the way, I never had anywhere NEAR those errors with UK Online LLU. I was also on fastpath with a 3dB profile with them, and my line was solid. Time to ask Be I think.
 
Rainmaker said:
I just carried out the above stats checker with today's readings (having been up a while now). Although it confirms fastpath, it sounds like something's wrong somewhere :\



By the way, I never had anywhere NEAR those errors with UK Online LLU. I was also on fastpath with a 3dB profile with them, and my line was solid. Time to ask Be I think.
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Either pop into the Be* forun or the IRC @ irc.beusergroup.co.uk #Be*, there are many helpful bods and staffers.

/me waits for the OcUKers to tear his stats checker apart...

Charles :: ADSL.BlueEther.net
 
Reppyboyo said:
Wish they would change their god awful website back to the way it was tho.
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LOL agreed, it just looks too busy now...i liked the clean look of their last website...to me it looks like they got a bunch of kids in and let them loose:(
 
BlueEther said:
with fluorescent markers, grey roof paint and some wheel blackener
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Good to see you on here too (assuming you are the same from the forums. I find your stats checker to be good ;)

BlueEther's Stats Checker said:
BlueEther.net's stats checker thinks my line is made of standard BT wiring.

http://adsl.blueether.net/yourstats.php?statsID=6414
The Summary said:
You are on ADSL2+
Great down sync speed for your line length of 1,812m.
SNR is good.
Attenuation looks normal.
Output power looks normal.
There are CRC errors.
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Code: 
Uptime:        2h 49m 23s 
Modulation:    G.992.5 - Fastpath on Annex A
            (Up Stream)    /    (Down Stream)
Sync:                1395    /    21277
Data Transferred:    0.00 kB    /    0.00 kB
Attenuation:    12    /    25
SN Margin:        3.5    /    3.5
Power:            12    /    18.5
Vendor:        TMMB    /    BDCM
Modem:            TG585v7
LoF:                0    /    0
LoS:                0    /    0
Error Sec.:    16    /    0
FEC:            21    /    0
CRC:            21    /    1555
HEC:            587    /    182
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I don't mind the CRC errors tbh as long as the down speed is good.
 
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Sash said:
Good to see you on here too (assuming you are the same from the forums. I find your stats checker to be good ;)
[ADSL Stats]
I don't mind the CRC errors tbh as long as the down speed is good.
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I lurk in a few forums but don't post in many ;)

The CRC errors are getting quite high on that line, but without the protection of interleaving you will get them. If you game I would watch for lag spikes where data has to be retransmitted, but for general interneting and D/Ling it should be fine.
 
Funnily enough, I havent noticed many lag spikes, been playing on a few game servers L4D, TF2, Aion etc which are located in different places and no complaints so far :)
 
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