Glass pint glasses to be replaced with plastic

So people are complaining that pubs are closing because lack of business, and yet are stating that if there were plastic cups in them, they'd not go at all?

Surely the problem lies in people not going to pubs, rather than implementing plastic cups to avoid people getting glassed?

Just keep going to pubs, and you'll be fine. Keep complaining when they try to make it safer, and watch as your precious pubs vanish.
 
Skyfall said:
Oh and wait for the kicker, the real zinger THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE! Unless of course you're an exceptionally opinionated weiner who thinks that plastic has a taste.
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But the weight man! How can you expect me to drink from something so light! without the extra weight the cup will hurtle into my face as my huge Alpha muscles over compensate!
 
Ascendancy said:
To be honest, I've never had a beer in a glass, and then in a plastic glass, from the same establishment. So all the foul tasting beer in plastic glasses I've had could just be down to certain places' pumps or something :p
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Our students union used to be glass during the day, plastic and nights, and you could tell the difference, plastic doesn't keep the beer cool for as long for a start, and depending on what you are drinking, you get different gas/foam distribution between glass and plastic.

It's not a major thing for me, but the stupidity of trying to legislate this as an answer to social problems most certainly is.
 
So the article says 5500 incidents of this happen per year. Considering they quote 126,000,000 pints of beer are served in Britain per week that's a pretty damn small margin of those glasses that get used as weapons.

Seriously 5,500 per year in England and Wales, it's practically nothing. Ok it would be great to reduce this but anyone who's willing to use a glass as a weapon will use whatever comes to hand.
 
Dolph said:
Our students union used to be glass during the day, plastic and nights, and you could tell the difference, plastic doesn't keep the beer cool for as long for a start, and depending on what you are drinking, you get different gas/foam distribution between glass and plastic.

It's not a major thing for me, but the stupidity of trying to legislate this as an answer to social problems most certainly is.
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Yeah, I thought it might actually be the medium the glass is made out of, and not just my imagination. Cheers.
 
Pathetic.
Stop the problem. Arrest the culprits and give them a 10 year restraining order from all pubs in the county. Or if the pub/club has x offenses in 12 months force hem to use plastic.

After 8pm idea. pffff laods of civil pubs you can go and have a qquite drink after 9pm.

What gets me is they keep trying all these new things, when the problems are 90+% of the time caused by the same "few" people week in week out.
 
PaulStat said:
Seriously 5,500 per year in England and Wales, it's practically nothing. Ok it would be great to reduce this but anyone who's willing to use a glass as a weapon will use whatever comes to hand.
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Exactly. Quite sad really. Hopefully it wont happen, fingers crossed eh.
 
simulatorman said:
I taste the beer not what it is served in, you must have a very strange palate. ;)
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Clearly. When you drink, does your tongue not touch the glass / plastic rim? Plastic tastes horrible. Glass doesn't.

As an added bonus, beer in a plastic cup warms up a hell of a lot more quickly than beer in a glass cup.
 
I am not really bothered about this change but someone in this thread made a good point, scum will find another way to cause harm if they really want to although I do think moving to plastic will put an end to some impulsive violence but not all.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
Pathetic.
Stop the problem. Arrest the culprits and give them a 10 year restraining order from all pubs in the county.
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And think the general idea is to stop them from being culprits - if they are culprits then someone has already been scared for life at the least.


And I love the idea of people saying they change the taste. Given how little most current mass-consumption beers actually taste of anything at all, it's difficult to see how.


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Meridian said:
And think the general idea is to stop them from being culprits - if they are culprits then someone has already been scared for life at the least.
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They'll use fists instead. Admittedly don't do as much damage. However I would bet most people who have bottled have been in numerous fights before they bottle someone.
But the thing is government should not legislate against such a small problem and if they do it should not inconvenience everyone.

Meridian said:
And I love the idea of people saying they change the taste. Given how little most current mass-consumption beers actually taste of anything at all, it's difficult to see how.


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Perhaps because some of us go to proper pubs which serve decent drinks. Two of our favorites is zero degrees (witch is a micro brewery) and The Yard (which although expensive does fine quality local and European beers). You don't get fights in such establishments and as such why should they be penalized and yes it does change the taste and experience of a fine pint.
 
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The main difference in drinking from a plastic cup is the different thermal properties. Presuming you're drinking something cold, it is different.

Having spent a bit of time in Oz (where I found it much more frequent to receive a plastic cup), I prefer the drinking experience of drinking from a glass.

Part of it may be mental (I'm not 5 years old, and so can be trusted with a grown-up glass), but hey, that's just me.

It may be a good idea to mandate plastics in specific circumstances (e.g. based on number of disturbances/police being called etc) rather than a blanket ban/mandate.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Perhaps because some of us go to proper pubs which serve decent drinks. Two of our favorites is zero degrees (witch is a micro brewery) and The Yard (which although expensive does fine quality local and European beers). You don't get fights in such establishments and as such why should they be penalized and yes it does change the taste and experience of a fine pint.
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I went to Zero Degrees for my birthday last week. Consumed many pilsners and enjoyed some excellent Thai muscles. Great place :)
 
JonC said:
It may be a good idea to mandate plastics in specific circumstances (e.g. based on number of disturbances/police being called etc) rather than a blanket ban/mandate.
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exactly, it would make far more sense.

Nitefly said:
I went to Zero Degrees for my birthday last week. Consumed many pilsners and enjoyed some excellent Thai muscles. Great place :)
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the Pilsner is good, if you haven't you must try the Mango beer.
 
Dolph said:
More pointless and stupid ideas that fail to get to the root cause of the problem from our government...

Are we surprised? I'm not, they are incapable of actually suggesting that people are at fault, that parents are at fault, and that society needs a serious rethink in the UK as large parts of it no longer have any personal responisbility. The problem really is that the people they need to target are generally traditional labour voters...
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This.

Also as a real ale drinker I can tell you ale tastes worse in plastic glasses. I get the point that some places with a bad track record should be forced to use plastic and sort the problem out.

The rest can we be treated like adults and have glass? Not all of us go out get ****ered and start fights you know.
 
I think the best solution is to look at problem pubs and nightclubs - assign plastic to those who have higher than a set amount of injuries, and those who are in trouble-free areas still serve glass.

EDIT: Of course, the root problem is society.
 
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