It was, completely down to watching "The Cell" on BBC4 the other night. My point is that, to me, with science being so advanced and the proof for evolution so strong, it seems more logical to believe in God not existing rather than being agnostic.
The god delusion... Religious debate
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It was, completely down to watching "The Cell" on BBC4 the other night. My point is that, to me, with science being so advanced and the proof for evolution so strong, it seems more logical to believe in God not existing rather than being agnostic.
OH NOES.
Christians have never claimed that the earth is flat. The Bible doesn't make such a claim.
And I'll pre-empt you by suggesting that Genesis is probably allegorical, but even if it's not if the snake were Satan, then him talking would be the least of our worries.
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If only there was "no harm" in religion, eh?
I didn't say Christian's claimed Earth was flat. I'll give you a penny if you can name something from science that's as ludicrous as a talking snake, every animal on Earth fitting onto a big wooden boat made by one man or even some ethereal being sending his 'son' down to a planet. I just wish I was alive 2,000 years ago to write some utter tosh and laugh at the idea that the majority of the population would actually believe it.
Sadly you can't just pick and choose which bits of the Bible are 'allegorical'. I always liken it to Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings - in 2,000 years time imagine people worshipping the great creator Lord Potter, don'd with lightening on their foreheads to show their faith. Ridiculous huh?
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What if evolution is God's framework? And science our gift?
(no that this is what I personally believe).
Religion does not contradict evolution, only insane fundie interpretations claim such a thing.
And no, it's not in the least bit logical to believe something that you can't prove.
And no, that's not me claiming that my belief in God is somehow logical when your believe in his non-existence isn't.
I am an agnostic. I used to be atheist but a few things recently have meant I question my previous stance. But on balance I still haven't seen any evidence to strongly persuade me that God exists.
I certainly don't believe in man made religion.
I certainly don't believe in man made religion.
Then why take a belief stance?
you should be agnostic.
Deity is separate from man made religion.
Haven't read it but I bet it's a pile of drivel.
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Woo a religion thread. Can open... worms... everywhere.
For what it's worth, I'm a Hindu. Why? Because that was how I was raised. Is it the correct, one true religion? Who knows? Is there a god? Who knows? To be honest I am as Hindu as many people in the UK call themselves Christian.
Personally I don't care which religion people choose to follow as long as it is a peaceful one, or if people choose not to follow a religion they respect those who do and don't treat them as idol worshipping nutters.
I believe religion is important as a tool by which to help people live their lives, or as rexehuk puts it, teach a moral code. The problem comes about when religions are politicised and used as excuses to justify the normally unjustifiable.
For what it's worth, I'm a Hindu. Why? Because that was how I was raised. Is it the correct, one true religion? Who knows? Is there a god? Who knows? To be honest I am as Hindu as many people in the UK call themselves Christian.
Personally I don't care which religion people choose to follow as long as it is a peaceful one, or if people choose not to follow a religion they respect those who do and don't treat them as idol worshipping nutters.
I believe religion is important as a tool by which to help people live their lives, or as rexehuk puts it, teach a moral code. The problem comes about when religions are politicised and used as excuses to justify the normally unjustifiable.
As for a creator etc, I believe in science
That's a very odd statement.
Perhaps you should find out what science is.
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Do you eat beef?
If not, then you aren't eating beef because of a religion you don't really believe in/practice (Go Mata etc). That's almost oppression (beef is lovely).
Ok, who here has read the God Delusion and how did you find it?
I have just started the book via audio (Read by Richard Dawkins).
What is everyones religious stance here and why?
NO SERIOUS DEBATING, JUST NOTE YOUR STANCE AND JUSTIFY IT
Can't be bothered with the usual religious debate becoming violent etc...
You have to be kidding? You start a thread about Richard bloody Dawkins, ask people about their stance, and expect people not to debate. Uhhhhm...
Anyhow - I'm a hardcore athiest/ non-believer. I value common sense over one fairy tale out of thousands.
A serious question and one that isn't intended to offend... if the only reason you follow a religion is because your parents followed it, then shouldn't you look around and decide for yourself whether it's the right direction?
I was raised by very strong atheists. While I still can't conclude that religion exists, I decided to question that and try to have an open mind. Does God exist? I don't know. I may never find out, but at least I keep an open mind which is probably more than my parents did.
How is it common sense?
you are denying the possibility of a deity. Man made religion doesn't really come into your stance.
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I've been in a scientologist. Boom.Anyone willing to admit to being into Scientology?
(not really).
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Eh? I don't believe in God in any form - I'm not agnostic.