Report of rioting in Birmingham City Centre

Hxc · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:04

mattheman said:
Incorrect they have destroyed chruches and converted churches into mosque here in britain.

Got a source for that?

Missing.String · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:05

mattheman said:
They are in a way.

And what way would that be?

mattheman · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:07

Hxc said:
Got a source for that?

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk...ted-mosque/article-262061-detail/article.html

there lots like that.

deuse · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:07

Chimerical said:
Well maybe you should personally go there. This call-out of cowardice is amusing when there are so many pro-war advocates who themselves can't join the forces.

I don't need to go to Iraq because I'm against invading it. That's a pretty consistent viewpoint if you ask me.

See you don't even look for my age in my profile!(silly boy)
You are a keyboard warrior.

Chimerical · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:09

deuse said:
See you don't even look for my age in my profile!(silly boy)
You are a keyboard warrior.

No, I already knew your age. That's why I used the word "can't".

You can't go there so you advocate that others do. Seems pretty cowardly to me.

mattheman · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:09

Missing.String said:
And what way would that be?

filling in for workers due to there reglious beliefs, taking on extra work, some places banning western regions in the work place etc.... it goes on.

Chimerical · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:11

mattheman said:
http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk...ted-mosque/article-262061-detail/article.html

there lots like that.

Plans to convert the crumbling former St Matthew's Church into a mosque were approved last night at a meeting of Lincoln City Council.

Shame you missed that bit.

Oh look, there's more:

It ceased to operate as a church in 2000 after church authorities could not afford to repair it and it has since stood empty.

mattheman · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:12

Chimerical said:
Shame you missed that bit.

yer why was it former you have to ask, non funding, yet theres plenty of funding for mosques that comes out of center govenrment, yet the funding of chruches is being reduced.

Christo · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:13

Lots of arguments moving into religion here - the UK should be a completely secular State - get rid of religion, separate it from the state. I dont want Sharia law as much as Christian laws in the country. Remove religion from the equation and you have removed some of the issues between the 'residents' and 'immigrants'.

Oh and the people who attack the BNP (far left) are as bad as the far right - the far left cant seem to see this (its seemingly 'fashionable' to dislike the right nowadays). ALL fundamentalists need sorting out.

Chimerical · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:15

mattheman said:
yer why was it former you have to ask, non funding, yet theres plenty of funding for mosques.

Because there's some sort of conspiracy against white Christians perhaps?

scorza · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:15

Missing.String said:
No, because Middle Eastern norms and values are not being forced on our society.

Sharia law courts now recognised in this country.
Council's banning Christmas celebrations, calling it "winterfest" or other such nonsense.
Call to prayer noise pollution across many British cities.

mattheman · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:15

Chimerical said:
Shame you missed that bit.

Oh look, there's more:

Christo said:
Lots of arguments moving into religion here - the UK should be a completely secular State - get rid of religion, separate it from the state. I dont want Sharia law as much as Christian laws in the country. Remove religion from the equation and you have removed some of the issues between the 'residents' and 'immigrants'.

no because if you tried to do that you'd be called racist.

Chimerical · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:16

scorza said:
Sharia law courts now recognised in this country.

Jewish courts are in daily use in Britain, and have been for centuries.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7233040.stm

The Jews and Muslims are entitled to the same rights.

LabR@t · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:17

Christo said:
Lots of arguments moving into religion here - the UK should be a completely secular State - get rid of religion, separate it from the state. I dont want Sharia law as much as Christian laws in the country. Remove religion from the equation and you have removed some of the issues between the 'residents' and 'immigrants'.

England's monarchs has been a defender of the faith for over 500 years I don't see why we should change, for the vocal minority

Encyclopedia

defender of the faith

a title belonging to the sovereign of England in the same way as Christianissimus ("most Christian") belonged to the king of France. The title was first conferred by Pope Leo X on Henry VIII (Oct. 11, 1521) as a reward for the king's pamphlet Assertio septem sacramentorum adversus Martinum Lutherum ("Declaration of the Seven Sacraments Against Martin Luther"), written against Luther. When Henry broke with the papacy, Pope Paul III deprived him of his designation, but the title was restored to the king by Parliament in 1544 and is still used by his successors on the English throne. The abbreviation Fid. Def. or the letters F.D. have been regularly on the coinage from the time of George I

Christo · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:18

scorza said:
Sharia law courts now recognised in this country.
Council's banning Christmas celebrations, calling it "winterfest" or other such nonsense.
Call to prayer noise pollution across many British cities.

Call to prayer noise pollution across many British cities. - Whatabout church bells?

I say be equal to all religions - BAN both. Problem solved. However 5 times a day is seemingly less intrusive than a church bell once a week on a sunday I'll give you that

mattheman · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:19

Chimerical said:
Shame you missed that bit.

Oh look, there's more:

ive always argue make it illegal to have muslim association or black association etc.. and just have one association for all.
Why is there a need for a black group, and i have agrued this many many times there is no equality untill inequality has banished, and i mean things like positive discrimination.

scorza · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:19

Chimerical said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7233040.stm

The Jews and Muslims are entitled to the same rights.

Don't care about Jewish law, it doesn't even come close to the level of brutality of Sharia law.

Oh - Islamic bank accounts too.

Christo · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:20

mattheman said:
no because if you tried to do that you'd be called racist.

No you get called an Atheist crackpot maybe, not sure how anyone can relate that to race!?

LabR@t said:
England's monarchs has been a defender of the faith for over 500 years I don't see why we should change, for the vocal minority

Because religion creates friction in a multicultural society. Its bloody pointless too (my opinion of course).

The point is you cant crack down on the expansion of Islam in the UK, without treating all religions the same.

scorza · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:20

Christo said:
Call to prayer noise pollution across many British cities. - Whatabout church bells?

They were there before.

Missing.String · 12 Sep 2009 at 17:21

scorza said:
They were there before.

So something being done for a while beforehand makes it ok?

Wow.