Mugen FN2 Confirmed

Rotty · 25 Oct 2009 at 10:33

what are they thinking ? what a waste of time

Jonnycoupe · 25 Oct 2009 at 11:22

elmuzzy66. said:
A return of the crx vtec would be better. An S2000 lump in a crx would fit. Ah dreams

What like this? 2010 Honda CR-Z. 1.5 VTEC engine with IMA and a 6 speed manual.

Tinders · 25 Oct 2009 at 14:02

MilanoChris said:
A hell of a lot of difference.

Care to expand?

Janesy B · 25 Oct 2009 at 14:17

Tinders said:
Care to expand?

A few thousand pounds

elmuzzy66. · 25 Oct 2009 at 18:22

Jonnycoupe said:
What like this? 2010 Honda CR-Z. 1.5 VTEC engine with IMA and a 6 speed manual.

Heard about a concept years ago but thought it wouldn't be made. ANy other specs?

ChrisD. · 25 Oct 2009 at 22:00

Tinders said:
Care to expand?

ECU, engine internals, corner weighting, intake, exhaust, complete suspension, complete brakes, wheels, weight stripping for a start. Plus it's all fully warranted.

Durzel · 26 Oct 2009 at 01:12

Great. It's still not worth just shy of £40k.

Sin_Chase · 26 Oct 2009 at 03:23

For that kind of money I would expect more than the stock output of an S2000!

IPBA · 26 Oct 2009 at 08:22

I very much like Honda's but that car should be closer to £25k then it would be more appealing. However, in saying that the FN2 has never appealed to me Mugen tuned ot not.

mrk · 26 Oct 2009 at 08:24

[TW]Fox;15153051 said:
£38500 for a 240bhp 4 cylinder hatchback?

That's 335i money right there :O

adam cool dude · 26 Oct 2009 at 09:06

MilanoChris said:
ECU, engine internals, corner weighting, intake, exhaust, complete suspension, complete brakes, wheels, weight stripping for a start. Plus it's all fully warranted.

and with all that it's still only the same bhp as a jdm type-r with a inferior base chassis.

ChrisD. · 26 Oct 2009 at 11:00

adam cool dude said:
and with all that it's still only the same bhp as a jdm type-r with a inferior base chassis.

Last time I looked, a JDM Type R is not 240ps. Also, this is faster than the JDM Mugen RR round a track.

Nick1881 · 26 Oct 2009 at 11:15

adam cool dude said:
and with all that it's still only the same bhp as a jdm type-r with a inferior base chassis.

MilanoChris said:
Last time I looked, a JDM Type R is not 240ps. Also, this is faster than the JDM Mugen RR round a track.

Maybe he means the FD2 (4 door Type R in Japan)

ChrisD. · 26 Oct 2009 at 11:24

mr_x_plosion said:
Maybe he means the FD2 (4 door Type R in Japan)

I know he means the FD2 and as I say, the last time I looked, the stock FD2 is not 240ps.

Phate · 26 Oct 2009 at 11:56

For half the money you could get a R26.R which will be just as good if not better? Surely?

Nick1881 · 27 Oct 2009 at 08:48

MilanoChris said:
I know he means the FD2 and as I say, the last time I looked, the stock FD2 is not 240ps.

I think Honda claim 225ps but a few rolling roads have shown over 230bhp AFAIK. Maybe he is referring to those dyno runs. :confused:

I'd take the FD2 over this Mugen FN2 any day.

AgentSm1th · 27 Oct 2009 at 09:14

This is a nice car, but not 25k worth of motor, let alone 38.5k!
Honda want an additional 15k+ for 40BHP, corner weighting/coil over suspension and interior stripping???

I suspect it drives well, but I'd wager its no faster than an R26.R which has greater straight line potential and much higher power potential.

ChrisD. · 27 Oct 2009 at 20:32

AgentSm1th said:
This is a nice car, but not 25k worth of motor, let alone 38.5k!
Honda want an additional 15k+ for 40BHP, corner weighting/coil over suspension and interior stripping???

I suspect it drives well, but I'd wager its no faster than an R26.R which has greater straight line potential and much higher power potential.

It has lapped a few tracks quicker than the R26.R, plus you don't have a roll cage and plastic windows.

If you was to take a road going FN2 and mod it to the extreme that this has been then it'd cost a lot more.

AgentSm1th · 28 Oct 2009 at 09:20

MilanoChris said:
It has lapped a few tracks quicker than the R26.R, plus you don't have a roll cage and plastic windows.

If you was to take a road going FN2 and mod it to the extreme that this has been then it'd cost a lot more.

Can we see info on these quicker laps, or is it just pub chat? If it is quicker then it must be very small and again not over 15k quicker.

Why would anyone buy one of these for track use when they could buy an M3 CSL which would destroy it on both track and road. Nearly 40k for a 240BHP hot hatch, sorry but no, its worth no more than 25k at best.

Dup · 28 Oct 2009 at 09:46

AgentSm1th said:
Why would anyone buy one of these for track use when they could buy an M3 CSL which would destroy it on both track and road. Nearly 40k for a 240BHP hot hatch, sorry but no, its worth no more than 25k at best.

A warrantied track based brand new car vs second hand BMW which could cost a fortune in potential running costs at the same budget. For a lot of people it makes sense.

Yes it costs too much for a hot Honda, but it's a demo car. At the end of the day the parts used on this car will become available officially in the UK for enthusiasts to buy for their standard FN2 as it's Mugens attempt to break into the UK market officially.

The point missing is that the limited run available will be hand built/tuned by Mugen and presumably made to order, it's not as if they're going to bung it on the end of the FN2 production line and pop them out like normal. They take the base FN2 from Honda then add costs on top, which for any tuner will easily make up to that inflated price tag. If they said they were going to mass produce them like the R26.R and charge the same they would retarded.