UK government to get tough on file-sharers

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Peter Mandelson:

People who persistently download illegal content will be cut off from the net, Business Secretary Peter Mandelson has announced.
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Well it seems like they will be pushing ahead with the three strikes and your out policy.

I can see this getting very messy.

Yes I am well aware of NG's/SSL encryption etc, this is not a thread to discuss such ways to get around P2P file sharing, it's to discuss the story and peoples thoughts on it.

Thanks. :)

I wonder if a mod could remove the second UK from the title.
 
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As long you are convicted in court beyond reasonable doubt of the offence, sure. Circumstantial evidence... no way.
 
in other news people caught stealing from shops three times will be banned from entering a shop of any kind for life.
oh wait it sounds just as ridiculous as beeing banned from the internet because of the age we live in.

it wont be long until having the internet will be needed just as much as having a bank account or photo id.
 
I don't really see the point in doing this. They'll just push the problem further underground and make people harder to catch. If people want to download illegally they will.
 
A government spokesman described internet access as a basic human right a couple of months ago. How does this fit in with a 'three strike' policy? And why are the government weighing in on this? Surely this is a matter of concern for the copyright holders.
 
They could pass a law that forces ISPs to give IP tracking data to the "police" and that would be it. They could go through it and just prosecute non stop ar their will.

Encrypting traffic might hide it but it still will give a trail back to the source and down loader.

This is a scary
 
I feel sorry for the people who will have their wireless network hacked and then they will get the blame.
 
jp_bl_68 said:
A government spokesman described internet access as a basic human right a couple of months ago. How does this fit in with a 'three strike' policy? And why are the government weighing in on this? Surely this is a matter of concern for the copyright holders.
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Human rights can still be taken away if they are abused.

Personally I think it would be much easier to make DRM illegal (to support legitimate users and remove the 'but they made me copy it illegally' excuse), clearly enmuerate fair use rights and criminalise all non-fair use copyright infringement for those who take advantage of it.

We criminalise all other forms of taking someone else's property without consent, I don't see why intellectual property should be considered differently.
 
Only so long you can steal before someone decides their margins are being eroded enough for them to do something about it.

Question is how to prevent sharing copies of data without paying a fee to the creator.

Can't deny its taking the **** for some to have almost 24/7 downloads and sharing of software and media which should legally cost many hundreds, perhaps thousands of pounds.

If it's legal to charge for your work and copies of then the law needs to be enforced.
 
Paul11 said:
will just drive the problem deeper

file sharing p2p software will just be developed with encryption
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I know in utorrent (are we allowed to discuss that from a legal sharing point of view?) there's already an option to encrypt connections or something but I think it was from an ISP throttling aspect, i.e. it stops ISPs traffic-shaping your P2P connections but does not stop people proving what you've shared. Surely if it was simple to protect P2P torrent users from this kind of thing, it would have already been implemented? Not familar with newsgroups etc. but from what I gather, newsgroups are what people use if they're concerned about exposure.

deuse said:
I feel sorry for the people who will have their wireless network hacked and then they will get the blame.
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This for me is the crunch point. By penalising file-shares that have not protected their wireless network, they are basically making it illegal to not protect your wireless network, are they not? How can they do this? Punishing someone for not understanding WEP or enforcing it, is surely impossible, and if so, people can simply defend the charge with 'wasn't me, someone must have used my connection'. Of course there are other traces but as soon as you receive summons, you securely format your hard drive!
 
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If they enforce it with any zeal people will just start going to the sunday markets for their cheap films and games. Peter Mandelson being unelected and in government makes my blood boil, its as if they are waving a red flag at the electorite. If they keep going the way they are we will end up with a BNP government sooner that we think.
 
Paul11 said:
but could they prosecute you without knowing what it is you downloaded,

even if they knew where you downloaded it from ?
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Well im no network security expert, ill admit hahs... but!!!

Once they know who and where you are, depending on how far this law went, having your front door broken down at 6am by a " hard drive investigation team" would pretty much show you are a "download offender" then it would only be a matter of prosecution and then a state execution of your choice.
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