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EVGA GTX 295

ya ive got a corsair 750waatt, did a lot of research before i ordered this and anything over 700 should be more than enough. as long as e sapre 8 pin and enough 6 pins should be no hassle
 
ok so even if the 295 is a little more power hungry than any other card around is that such a bad thing as long as you have the power supply to handle it?
 
ok so even if the 295 is a little more power hungry than any other card around is that such a bad thing as long as you have the power supply to handle it?
The bad thing is how much it adds to the electric bill over 12months :p

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18058130&highlight=electric
My assumptions:
Your pc is left on and idle for 365 days
1 KWH costs £0.150303 (what it costs in northern ireland)

nvidia
275 would cost an additional £19 per year over a 5870 (Uses on average an extra 14W)
285 would cost an additional £31 per year over a 5870 (Uses on average an extra 24W)
295 would cost an additional £68 per year over a 5870 (Uses on average an extra 52W)


I hope my calcs are correct and i hope this is useful to some people.
 
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ATI fan boys pff stick with the 295 if I was you ;)

I'm an nVidia user and would never recommend a 295 over a 5870.

Even my workmate looking to buy a 295 yesterday was told the same thing by me.
 
For folding@home NVidia simply destroys anything ATI. For anything else it's much less clear cut.

The newest single card GTX295s are significantly less power hungry than the original ones which were two cards joined together.

In terms of absolute operformance the GTX295 is still the fastest single card solution. As has been previously stated at the absolute worst it's as fast as a 5870 and generally it's faster, and the higher the resolution, the bigger the performance differential.

It is not EOL. It's a current NVidia product. It's certainly not old tech. It's the latest tech available. DX11 is a red herring until DX11 games actually come out.

Any new NVidia cards are a long way off and that's assuming that NVidia don't abandon the graphics card market all together.

If I was buying today, I would buy the BFG GTX295 at the best price I could find.
 
Get the 5870 now and then down the line put another 5870 in and whop the 295's performance simple really, why buy old tech now and something that will cause the lights in your street to dim when you turn the pc on ;) the fact the 295 has dual gpu's and only just beats a single card says it all to me where to go.
 
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ok at the end of the day who cares about the lights in the street going dim? if its a minimum of a 680watt power supply then thats what this card gets, judging by previous cards calculations over the course of a year this card costs roughly £49 more expensive to run than other gtx's i dont think that people who purchase these top of the range cards are to worried about that small difference?
 
For folding@home NVidia simply destroys anything ATI. For anything else it's much less clear cut.

The newest single card GTX295s are significantly less power hungry than the original ones which were two cards joined together.

In terms of absolute operformance the GTX295 is still the fastest single card solution. As has been previously stated at the absolute worst it's as fast as a 5870 and generally it's faster, and the higher the resolution, the bigger the performance differential.

It is not EOL. It's a current NVidia product. It's certainly not old tech. It's the latest tech available. DX11 is a red herring until DX11 games actually come out.

Any new NVidia cards are a long way off and that's assuming that NVidia don't abandon the graphics card market all together.

If I was buying today, I would buy the BFG GTX295 at the best price I could find.

Now I wouldn't want pesky facts to get in the way of a good argument, but at its worst, the 295 will be only marginally faster than a 260 due to its dual GPU setup. Think about why the likes of EVGA and Nvidia release SLi patches at regular instances. The 5870 is a brand new part, using very early drivers, yet for the most part the difference between it and the mature 295 is usually only a few % either way. What can we expect once real effort is put into raw performance increases?

Power use is hardly different to the original dual PCB design, certainly not the "significantly less power hungry" you claim, care to put up some numbers to disprove this? http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-single-pcb-review/7
System in IDLE = 239 Watts

* Dual PCB: System with GPU in FULL Stress = 406 Watts
* Single PCB: System with GPU in FULL Stress = 411 Watts
Heh

As for "It's the latest tech available" well no, not really is it. You can read from the Nvidia fact sheet and say DX11 is of no significance (well until they have a part...) but to say a card which does not support the latest DX spec is the latest tech is plain wrong.

Anyway, is the mantra 'only the fastest single GPU card counts' still the in thing? I certainly remember that being tossed around when the 4870x2 appeared on the scene and was beating the 280.

You can buy a 5870 right now, "It's the latest tech available" will go toe to toe with the current dual GPU monster and offer best in class single GPU performance with no reliance on patches and variable SLi performance.
 
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Now I wouldn't want pesky facts to get in the way of a good argument, but at its worst, the 295 will be only marginally faster than a 260 due to its dual GPU setup. Think about why the likes of EVGA and Nvidia release SLi patches at regular instances. The 5870 is a brand new part, using very early drivers, yet for the most part the difference between it and the mature 295 is usually only a few % either way. What can we expect once real effort is put into raw performance increases?

So if ATI get their act together a 5870 will beat a GTX295? Maybe it will, but right now it doesn't. And that is a very pesky fact.

Power use is hardly different to the original dual PCB design, certainly not the "significantly less power hungry" you claim, care to put up some numbers to disprove this? http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-single-pcb-review/7

At idle it uses 45W less because you are not supporting two cards. Very few PCs run at anything other than idle most of the time.

As for "It's the latest tech available" well no, not really is it. You can read from the Nvidia fact sheet and say DX11 is of no significance (well until they have a part...) but to say a card which does not support the latest DX spec is the latest tech is plain wrong.

Well, as far as I know it is latest and fastest card with an NVidia chipset therefore it is the latest technology. That is a fact. It's not the latest AMD technology, but it is the latest technology.

Anyway, is the mantra 'only the fastest single GPU card counts' still the in thing? I certainly remember that being tossed around when the 4870x2 appeared on the scene and was beating the 280.

You see, I think that's where you show your true colours. When ATI had a faster card you were annoyed that no-one listened. It was faster. Now, I hate to break it to you, but the GTX295 is faster, and that is another pesky fact.

You can buy a 5870 right now, "It's the latest tech available from AMD" will go within 90% with the current dual GPU monster and offer best in class single GPU performance and might get better if they release some non-beta drivers.

Amended for veracity.
 
the GTX295 is faster, and that is another pesky fact.

The gap narrows considerably with overclocking and when newer drivers are made available.

I certainly wouldn't be recommending anyone to pay more for a 295 than a 5870. Buying into old tech isn't advisable which is what you're doing if you buy a 295.
 
Well, as far as I know it is latest and fastest card with an NVidia chipset therefore it is the latest technology. That is a fact. It's not the latest AMD technology, but it is the latest technology.

That argument is entirely stupid.
Just because it's NVidia's latest high end offering doesn't make it new Technology.
 
So if ATI get their act together a 5870 will beat a GTX295? Maybe it will, but right now it doesn't. And that is a very pesky fact.
Look at the reviews, with very early beta drivers, the card (as I said) goes toe to toe with the well established dual GPU monster, which is supported by very mature and optimised drivers. You can cling to the hope that ATI will not improve things, but c'mon, do you really think that will not happen? What about DX11 titles, what happens then if all you have is your 'latest tech' 295? If I was a betting man, I would say we could come back to this in six months time and the situation will look very different. I'll not argue, that right now the 295 has a slight advantage, but when you are dropping 300 beer tokens on a part you have to look at the situation as a whole.

At idle it uses 45W less because you are not supporting two cards. Very few PCs run at anything other than idle most of the time.

Which is still a significant amount more than the 5870, and as for load, well the numbers speak for themselves. Own up, you made something up and were caught out with a 20 second google search. idle.. tee hee

Well, as far as I know it is latest and fastest card with an NVidia chipset therefore it is the latest technology. That is a fact. It's not the latest AMD technology, but it is the latest technology.
er... wut!
Did you even stop to think before you posted that? It may well indeed be the latest NV tech, but it is still last gen.

You see, I think that's where you show your true colours. When ATI had a faster card you were annoyed that no-one listened. It was faster. Now, I hate to break it to you, but the GTX295 is faster, and that is another pesky fact.

I couldn't have cared less, I just liked to lol at the hypocracy. :)

Amended for veracity.
Keep reaching for that rainbow.


If the OP is dead set on a NV card (nothing wrong with brand loyalty as long as it is tempered with some common sense), then my advice would be to wait and see what Fermi brings, that's what I am doing. Buying an expensive, hot, power hungry [xmaspanto]oh yes it is[/xmaspanto] and very soon EoL DX10 part right now just seems like madness to me.

Well, as far as I know it is latest and fastest card with an NVidia chipset therefore it is the latest technology. That is a fact. It's not the latest AMD technology, but it is the latest technology.
Quoted again for the sheer, WTF'ness
 
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