Everything thats wrong at the moment

Dunno what JSA is now but 4-5 years back I was on it for awhile before I managed to move to a place with better job availability - and it was £44 a week JSA and £75 a week housing benefits... and my share of the rent was £380 - so I was slowly eeking it out of the JSA - wouldn't have been able to afford it in the long term - then no idea what would happen.

I was fortunate in that I had the opportunity to move to another part of the country - coz I couldn't have afforded to move - and I had a job within a month then - back where I had been living I could have easily gone on for 3-4 years before managing to get a job - and that was with trying.

The student loan might be a con but at least I can a) have a roof over my head that's semi-stable, and b) pay my rent without the council poking their noses in.
 
why though...people are working, what more can they do ?
im sure if their boss said tomorrow 'hey il give you 10* the pay' that very few would refuse(if any).

25+ only, another thing I can't claim due to an arbitrary age limit. Why is the government so intent on screwing over the youth? We're already experiencing record levels of unemployment, including graduates.
 
25+ only, another thing I can't claim due to an arbitrary age limit. Why is the government so intent on screwing over the youth? We're already experiencing record levels of unemployment, including graduates.

does it change if you knock a girl up ?
i know the rent does....i used to work in a letting agency and people under 25 could only claim the shared room rate and had to get the rest from god knows where else if they didnt want to share kitchen and bathroom area.

unless you knocked a girl up ofcourse then the floodgates would open :p
 
9. Your only sensible point really... Even then you have the wrong end of the stick. The car scrappage scheme was only introduced to "boost" the failing economy, nothing really to do with where the cars came from. The fact that its encouraged wasting a lot of normal working cars in a time of economic hard ship is a bit pointless really
 
Boris?? BORIS? Is that you Boris?

No but seriously, you make a good point about school learners between 16-18. My A-level education was damaged by learning alongside students who frankly didn't give a floss.

At least give kids a wider choice of vocational / paid apprenticeships.
 
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does it change if you knock a girl up ?
i know the rent does....i used to work in a letting agency and people under 25 could only claim the shared room rate and had to get the rest from god knows where else if they didnt want to share kitchen and bathroom area.

Or actually receive electricity and water supplies, as those are deducted if the landlord puts them in the rent. By way if you can tell me the agency name, email in trust :)

unless you knocked a girl up ofcourse then the floodgates would open :p

Child tax credit, few other things. However that only works in this case if said girl becomes a stay-at-home mum... :p
 
JSA is about £45 a week. It's nothing. Anyone that is stuck on JSA, being forced to jump through pointless hoops and can't find work - despite wanting to - needs our sympathy and help, not a kick in the teeth.

What we need to do is stop handing out housing left right and centre to layabouts and whores. Likewise, the price of estate is completely disproportionate; so much for social-mobility.
 
Or actually receive electricity and water supplies, as those are deducted if the landlord puts them in the rent. By way if you can tell me the agency name, email in trust :)





i used to work in a letting agency(sorry).
got a bit sick of the corrupt evil boss ...i swear i could tell some stories about this guy....but have to give it to him he surely knew how to play the system.
 
i used to work in a letting agency(sorry).
got a bit sick of the corrupt evil boss ...i swear i could tell some stories about this guy....but have to give it to him he surely knew how to play the system.

Heh, probably best I avoid them then. Dealt with an okay one before but they were only offering anything on the basis that I trumped up an £1100 upfront payment (deposit + month's rent).
 
yeah we used to charge that aswell.

if you are on benefits then sometimes you can get the benefits agency to pay your deposit for you...they call it a paper bond.
 
yeah we used to charge that aswell.

if you are on benefits then sometimes you can get the benefits agency to pay your deposit for you...they call it a paper bond.

It wouldn't be actual cash which is what the landlord wants, and I still couldn't pay the other half up front because the council takes forever to process the old-style form. For some reason LHA hasn't actually been implemented in practice yet. If it was, and the landlord was paid directly it would make life that much easier..
 
they dont like to pay landlords directly as they want to give the tenant some responsibility or some other silly reason lol.
there wouldnt be so many people looking and so many empty houses if they did.

problem is for landlords that if some druggy gets in and spends all his rent money on drugs then its usually cheaper for a landlord to pay him 400-500 quid to leave even though he has never received any rent from him....thats the main reason landlords require deposit and 1 months rent so atleast they have got something if the tenant decides to screw them over.

a few bad apples make it worse for the rest unfortunately.
 
Tax credits are a necessary evil that redress the balance to account for the fact that the tax burden on low earners is very high when you consider cost of living in this country.

However, claiming them is a bloody nightmare. My wife and I are graduates and have difficulty completing the forms, Lord help the less smart among us that this is really targeted at.

Interestingly, I've heard that if everyone who was eligible to claim tax credits did so, it would bankrupt the treasury.
 
Apologies to the OP if this is hijacking but this is a serious issue now that there are millions of unemployed folk.

they dont like to pay landlords directly as they want to give the tenant some responsibility or some other silly reason lol.
there wouldnt be so many people looking and so many empty houses if they did.

problem is for landlords that if some druggy gets in and spends all his rent money on drugs then its usually cheaper for a landlord to pay him 400-500 quid to leave even though he has never received any rent from him....thats the main reason landlords require deposit and 1 months rent so atleast they have got something if the tenant decides to screw them over.

a few bad apples make it worse for the rest unfortunately.

I'm aware of the reason they gave, but it wiped out the only incentive left to rent to "DSS" tenants. I'm not sure why a professional person is automatically better, they could quite easily lose their job in these conditions, or be bad with alcohol. The deposit's already there for that.

I have references but I guess that makes no odds...just like the amount of tax I've paid makes no odds with the age business. Unfortunately the charities are no better at handling housing than the councils are. They're more likely to take in a long-term druggie than a clean person down on his luck, too much box-ticking going on.

My wife and I are graduates and have difficulty completing the forms, Lord help the less smart among us that this is really targeted at.

Interestingly, I've heard that if everyone who was eligible to claim tax credits did so, it would bankrupt the treasury.

That's because the threshold is set much higher than say, housing benefit. Same problem with child benefit, millionaires can still claim it.
 
6. No average speed cameras
I fully understand average speed cameras, they do make sense - on paper. While driving I find myself constantly looking at my speed, which is dangerous - if someone were to hit the brakes and I was just a little bit close to them I would hit them and i'm sure its the same with other people. OK some people will be saying just drive 10mph under speed limit but speed creeps up, especially down hills and you sometimes don't notice. It would be better if everyone had clever cruise control, but plenty of people don't.
Solution: Sell all the old cameras on the bay, I'm sure some race tracks could make use of them

Speed cameras normally trigger at the speed limit + 10% + 2mph and speedos will under read a bit. If you car is showing 50mph, chances are you're ding more like 47mph, and the cameras in a 50 would trigger at 57mph, which would show up more like 60 in your car. I don't agree with speed cameras but honestly I've never felt that monitoring my speed has caused my quality of driving to suffer. If you're driving so close to the car in front that a glance at your speedo could cause you to rear end him then I suggest you leave a larger gap.

8. Free NHS needs to have some sort of limit
I have not thought this one through very well, I was thinking something along the lines of after 1yr of having a job it would cost moneys for NHS but this doesn't work out very well for mothers taking 10yrs off work to look after kids etc.
Solution: Your help needed!

Aweful idea. By doing that, the working would be paying for healthcare for the unemployed, and then have to go and cover themselves after this money has been taken out. Nobody who was working would want to agree to that.

11. Take off smoking warning stickers
I am not a smoker, never have been, but I don't see why people who do choose to smoke should have to put up with massive stickers saying they will die. The government must remember the money they are getting from this.
Solution: Take off smoking warning stickers but people still shouldn't be allowed to smoke in public buildings.

I think this is aimed less at current smokers and more with the intention of stopping children taking it up.
 
Tax credits are a necessary evil that redress the balance to account for the fact that the tax burden on low earners is very high when you consider cost of living in this country.

However, claiming them is a bloody nightmare. My wife and I are graduates and have difficulty completing the forms, Lord help the less smart among us that this is really targeted at.

Interestingly, I've heard that if everyone who was eligible to claim tax credits did so, it would bankrupt the treasury.

it pushes up the prices for the rest of us, some poeple get more in tax credits than people on jsa. iam agaisnt tax credits its costing us 35 billion jsa costs us 4 billion.
 
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They're more likely to take in a long-term druggie than a clean person down on his luck, too much box-ticking going on.

unfortunately that is too true...most the possible tenants we got from the homeless place were immigrants who couldnt speak english(properly) or sometimes we would get sent druggies and with these people we took no deposit and advanced rent as they(homeless place) always provided us with tenants when needed.

only twice did we get someone who was born here, not have a drug problem and not have kids. we didnt take druggies tbh but other than that we didnt care as our job is finding tenants for properties....and usually immigrants do make great tenants tbh.

but when people couldnt afford 1 months rent and deposit i recommend they go through the homeless housing they said they got treated like **** and had been waiting for ages and nothing comes of it.
it is a case of ticking the right boxes to get pushed up the ladder.

worse case was a soldier who had come back from wherever....he had left because his mothers boyfriend kept beating up his mother so he moved in with her. few days later(i think) and his mother makes back up with her bf...her bf wants her son out and chucks out his stuff(id's and such).
his mother says he needs to go as she has to spend his life with this guy....he comes to our place and i recommend he goes through homeless as im unable to help him otherwise....he goes there and nothing.
he gets no help and the poor guy(about 30) is there stood infront of me with his eyes filling with tears and im unable to do crap all for him simply because he didnt tick the right boxes in the homeless place.

it never really ever bothered me though as i always felt people born here could help themselves better than immigrants who couldnt speak the language....it only really got to me when that soldier was stood there in uniform who had served his country and now comes back and gets told to....


oh and i should appologise for the hijack too...il quit now


im not sure if immigrants is the right word to use...maybe it was asylum seekers i was meant to use(sorry).
 
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A good portion of the homeless folk I met were ex-servicemen. Although there are a few dedicated charities for that cause, ineffective as they may be. But nothing for the neglected group that just needs some short-term (3-6 months) assistance to get back on their feet. I guess being in a (relative) minority doesn't do them any favours.
 
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