Nvidia v ATI

Th3D0n · 6 Dec 2009 at 18:37

EdGey said:
9500GT is a bad card.

agreed

EdGey said:
Consoles are horrible.

agree but for the final fantasy and fifa!

coolsouthern · 6 Dec 2009 at 19:00

Th3D0n said:
agreed

agree but for the final fantasy and fifa!

Ah Final Fantasy... How I love yooouuu!!!!

I'd be terrified to see how many hours of my life have gone towards the FF games.

Th3D0n · 6 Dec 2009 at 19:51

coolsouthern said:
Ah Final Fantasy... How I love yooouuu!!!!

I'd be terrified to see how many hours of my life have gone towards the FF games.

the amount of times iv replayed ff7 is ridiculous

tmaxxthomson · 6 Dec 2009 at 19:56

i wish they would bring out a final fantasy game for the pc that wasnt multiplayer only...or even a multiplayer one that u dnt have to pay monthly for

coolsouthern · 6 Dec 2009 at 22:16

Th3D0n said:
the amount of times iv replayed ff7 is ridiculous

That has just spurred me to go nd find my old memory card. I had the most insane save on there. All charcters fully levelled up, every last bit of materia etc. Nice tro just load it up and admire once every year or so

tmaxxthomson said:
i wish they would bring out a final fantasy game for the pc that wasnt multiplayer only...or even a multiplayer one that u dnt have to pay monthly for

Didn't FF8 come out on PC back in the day?

tmaxxthomson · 6 Dec 2009 at 22:18

yeah. they brought out FF7 and FF8 back in the day. extreamly rare now and probably will never run on windows 7

reiyushin · 6 Dec 2009 at 23:04

Given up on consoles here, it's the bay for my PS3.

I will miss tekken though

Th3D0n · 6 Dec 2009 at 23:22

tmaxxthomson said:
yeah. they brought out FF7 and FF8 back in the day. extreamly rare now and probably will never run on windows 7

you can get them to run on windows7 i think

reiyushin said:
Given up on consoles here, it's the bay for my PS3.

I will miss tekken though

get a 360 and soul calibur 4 its miles better then tekken

coolsouthern said:
That has just spurred me to go nd find my old memory card. I had the most insane save on there. All charcters fully levelled up, every last bit of materia etc. Nice tro just load it up and admire once every year or so

Take it you beat all the weapons? dam they where hard.
the first time i finished it i think i was lvl 35ish and it had token me 3ish hours to beat sephiroth lol

DavyBoy · 6 Dec 2009 at 23:22

PeECeEZ RooLzZ.. CoNSoLeZ SuX!!

Seriously though, how can anyone play FPS games with a gamepad?

Also, after playing games with a high end PC, I personally could never go back to owning a console, my little brother has PS3, and several of my mates own 360's, and everytime I have played a game on the console that I also have for PC, the graphics look extremely shoddy in comparison, and they dont run as smooth as they do on the PC neither.

I guess if consoles were all you had ever gamed on this wouldn't be an issue, but I personally have spoiled myself with PC gaming, that consoles just dont do it for me at all...

Just my 2p.

wiak · 6 Dec 2009 at 23:39

PS3 is just overhyped and under delivered, btw the graphics card in it is ancient (pre2006)
the latest HD 5000 series will give you 7680x4800 resolution in games, thats 600% higher resolution

the 9500 is slower than the card in the PS3, so why buy a €20 against a £400 PS3, get a Radeon HD 5850 and a proper CPU and now you can jack up the resolution and detail in games and look and feel the diffrent

Th3D0n · 7 Dec 2009 at 00:46

wiak said:
PS3 is just overhyped and under delivered, btw the graphics card in it is ancient (pre2006)
the latest HD 5000 series will give you 7680x4800 resolution in games, thats 600% higher resolution

Imagen what the size of the monitor if it had a resolution like that

Angst · 7 Dec 2009 at 00:58

Th3D0n said:
Imagen what the size of the monitor if it had a resolution like that

if im not mistaken i saw a 100inch tv so i think that res would just about fit it

86JR · 7 Dec 2009 at 01:18

Nvidia = Best drivers unless you own an HDTV, unethical (see the blocking of AA in batman and forcing ati users to have no physix even with seperate nvidia card), all cards have sometimes-annoying capacitator whine.

ati - slow driver release, superior performance at the current time, good customer service.

Rostam · 7 Dec 2009 at 01:25

Try playing RTS games like Supreme commander, red alert 3 total war ect on PS3.

Mouse/Keyboard > Joystick in most cases.

kylew · 7 Dec 2009 at 02:22

twoblacklines said:
Nvidia = Best drivers unless you own an HDTV, unethical (see the blocking of AA in batman and forcing ati users to have no physix even with seperate nvidia card), all cards have sometimes-annoying capacitator whine.

ati - slow driver release, superior performance at the current time, good customer service.

Best drivers? Hardly. People have issues with HDTVs with ATi too, it's down to luck really.

In fact, current nVidia drivers are pretty much broken for A LOT of people around here, there's quite a few issues they need to sort, but are slacking.

ATi cards are also just as subject to capacitor whine. In fact, PSUs also have an impact on how much a card whines.

I've had nVidia cards that don't whine, in fact, I don't think I've ever had a card that DID have it and I'm very sensitive to electrical noises. I can "sense" the static coming from a CRT screen, I can tell if one is on even if I'm in another room and the TV is muted.

ATi release drivers slow? :eek:

They do one a month officially and they have betas in between as well as hot fixes, that's hardly slow at all, nVidia is slow they've been known to not make a new official driver for 6 months+ with flaky betas in between.

ATi have better customer service? Again you can't generalise that considering BFG is supposed to have one of the best customer service records and they only make nVidia cards.

Customer service is down to the BRAND of the ATi card, not ATi themselves, same with nVidia.

kylew · 7 Dec 2009 at 02:23

wiak said:
PS3 is just overhyped and under delivered, btw the graphics card in it is ancient (pre2006)
the latest HD 5000 series will give you 7680x4800 resolution in games, thats 600% higher resolution

the 9500 is slower than the card in the PS3, so why buy a €20 against a £400 PS3, get a Radeon HD 5850 and a proper CPU and now you can jack up the resolution and detail in games and look and feel the diffrent

Are you sure you've not just extrapolated that resolution out of an eyefinity setup you've seen/heard of?

kylew · 7 Dec 2009 at 02:56

TAC4U said:
I'm sorry but please don't bring up Crysis. It was a mediocre game at best and a technical disaster. I still can't max it out on my rig, which is embarrassing... for the developers. Far Cry 2 had much better graphics, imo - and that game ran incredibly well on PC and on consoles.

Anyway, DiRT2 is the definitive game to show off graphics and what the PC can do. It really is quite a sight in all its DX11 glory. Is it worth the money buying a rig capable of running it well? Not really, but gaming is a passion for me. I could have grabbed a PS3, X360 and Wii for the price I paid for my graphics card but I didn't want to. Consoles have their place and I'm perfectly happy to see them do well - I'm not elitist about it - but I strongly disagree that they provide an equal or better gaming experience. Better value? Probably. More social? Sure. Require minimal setup and maintenance? Absolutely. But PCs are dramatically more versatile and have considerably better graphical fidelity.

How much you enjoyed crysis is utterly irrelevant and has no baring at all on how good its graphics are.

Crysis being a good game is subjective, the quality of its graphics however isn't.

It's the most advanced and realistic looking game engine currently used for games you can buy now, that's fact, whether you PREFER (subjective) the way another game looks how ever doesn't actually mean crysis doesn't have the most realistic graphics going.

They're all Cryengine 2 Screen shots.

arc@css · 7 Dec 2009 at 03:00

^^omg - what are we going to need to be able to run that kind of game then?

kylew · 7 Dec 2009 at 03:07

arc@css said:
^^omg - what are we going to need to be able to run that kind of game then?

Sorry? They're screen shots from Cryengine 2 (The same engine Crysis uses?).

They have the same demands on hardware as Crysis itself.

86JR · 7 Dec 2009 at 03:40

kylew said:
Best drivers? Hardly. People have issues with HDTVs with ATi too, it's down to luck really.

In fact, current nVidia drivers are pretty much broken for A LOT of people around here, there's quite a few issues they need to sort, but are slacking.

ATi cards are also just as subject to capacitor whine. In fact, PSUs also have an impact on how much a card whines.

I've had nVidia cards that don't whine, in fact, I don't think I've ever had a card that DID have it and I'm very sensitive to electrical noises. I can "sense" the static coming from a CRT screen, I can tell if one is on even if I'm in another room and the TV is muted.

ATi release drivers slow?

They do one a month officially and they have betas in between as well as hot fixes, that's hardly slow at all, nVidia is slow they've been known to not make a new official driver for 6 months+ with flaky betas in between.

ATi have better customer service? Again you can't generalise that considering BFG is supposed to have one of the best customer service records and they only make nVidia cards.

Customer service is down to the BRAND of the ATi card, not ATi themselves, same with nVidia.

So you have basically said that both are rubbish ?

Do a search, nearly everyone gets capacitator whine. my 260 does it, my 4870 didnt, same corsair PSU...so how is it down to my PSU ?

Nvidia +HDTV = 1" thick black bar on left of screen. Ati did have that problem...2 years ago and promtly fixed it. Nvidia emailed me and told me and I quote "get another monitor then".