Poll: Piracy and you?

[rypt]

It doesn't really matter tbh, for 99% of people out there the quality is fine, for the remainder like me you can order almost any CD on-line for less than a tenner these days incl delivery, CD's have never been so cheap.

And can then wait anything between 1 and 5 days to get the CD, as opposed to the 10-15min to get the CD contents

 

[bigredshark]

So it's not the same as CD, hence it is not offered properly online

So buy a CD??? I'm not quite sure how that justifies piracy - are you actually attempting to argue that because it's inconvenient to go buy a physical copy that makes it acceptable to pirate material?

I completely agree the record industry is living in the past and their business model can't continue indefinitely. That however is no justification of piracy. You can't just ignore the bits of the law you don't like.

 

[antijoke]

CD's have never been so cheap.

And why do you think that is?

 

[rypt]

I'm arguing that no online store yet legally supplies the same content in a purely digital format as you can get via physical CDs.
Perhaps when the industry finally LEADS the technological "revolution", instead of being dragged kicked and screaming and several years behind people will start buying and not pirating.

 

[roid]

the answer is about 40 terabytes

im not going to tell you the question

The amount of dwarf Asian midget pron Platinum87 possesses?

Bah beaten by the kettle man

 

[Things change I've changed]

And can then wait anything between 1 and 5 days to get the CD, as opposed to the 10-15min to get the CD contents

I don't see the problem, I pirate music all the time and have done for years, any album I like I order a hard copy off the net, now while I'm waiting for the CD I already own a pirated copy of the album so it's not like I have to wait to listen to it, all I have to do is wait a couple of days to get a better quality version, there is no valid excuse to pirate music and not purchase what you enjoy.

 

[rypt]

I don't see the problem, I pirate music all the time and have done for years, any album I like I order a hard copy off the net, now while I'm waiting for the CD I already own a pirated copy of the album so it's not like I have to wait to listen to it, all I have to do is wait a couple of days to get a better quality version, there is no valid excuse to pirate music and not purchase what you enjoy.

Business 101, provide the customers what they want.
If the customer wants CD quality music to download, you provide them that ability.
You do not provide them with what YOU think they want, you provide them with what THEY want.

 

[bigredshark]

I'm arguing that no online store yet legally supplies the same content in a purely digital format as you can get via physical CDs.
Perhaps when the industry finally LEADS the technological "revolution", instead of being dragged kicked and screaming and several years behind people will start buying and not pirating.

Just so long as you aren't actually justifying piracy on the grounds that buying CDs is a bit inconvenient...

Well while you may like it, there's no demand for it and offering half a dozen different formats and bit rates just eats storage space. You think Apple wouldn't already be doing it if there was demand and it was profitable?

To be honest I can't see it happening any time soon, CDs are still pretty popular and MP3 downloads are very popular. No demand for anything else right now. Personally I buy from itunes when I don't care so much, and when I actually want an album in decent quality I buy a CD and rip it.

 

[Glaucus]

Business 101, provide the customers what they want.
If the customer wants CD quality music to download, you provide them that ability.
You do not provide them with what YOU think they want, you provide them with what THEY want.

Business 102 only supply that which is financially viable. what percentage of the public want flac and how does that compare to the extra storage and bandwidth costs of multiple versions. How much would it add to the price of a download and how would that affect business

 

[Things change I've changed]

Edit - AcidHell2 beat me to it.

Business 101, provide the customers what they want.
If the customer wants CD quality music to download, you provide them that ability.
You do not provide them with what YOU think they want, you provide them with what THEY want.

Business 101, you provide the 'majority' of consumers with what they want at a competitive price, the problem with supplying lossless music downloads atm is that it's just not cost effective.

 

[mcwildcard]

I'm not a big music listener, I do like a bit of breaks, I regularly download legit mixes and if there's a tune I really like I'll grab it on mp3 from somewhere like beatport.
In terms of games, I have a PS3 and a PC, I don't really game anymore on my PC, but I do have a moody version of Kings Bounty, grabbed back when it was impossible to get hold of. I've still not got round to legitimising it, but will do at some point.
Films are a different matter, I do download an awful lot, but although there are a few commercial releases, the majority are things not available over here for me to buy.
I like a lot of asian cinema and DVDs cost up to £20 to import, so I prefer to watch the film first to make sure it's worth forking out bucks.
I do download Venture Bros TV episodes, but I'll be snapping the DVD/blu ray box sets of those up the very second they release them on Region 2.
(I already have Season 1, which is the only one released over here so far!)

So in short, I'm not a saint, but I'm certainly not an out and out dirty data thief.

 

[wannabedamned]

Tv Shows are the main thing i get myself, anime fansubs too. I dont download music, I dont see the point now there are apps like spotify and websites like grooveshark. I do get the odd movie, but if its something i watch and love, i then scramble to grab the bluray edition so i can have it on my shelf with all the other pretty blurays.

 

[JaffaJedi]

Business 102 only supply that which is financially viable. what percentage of the public want flac and how does that compare to the extra storage and bandwidth costs of multiple versions. How much would it add to the price of a download and how would that affect business

If people only realised that flac sounds better than mp3 then they would surely demand flac

unfortunately most of the flock dont know flac exists.

I use flac with my squeezebox and yes I can hear the difference between mp3 and flac.

 

[Glaucus]

If people only realised that flac sounds better than mp3 then they would surely demand flac

unfortunately most of the flock dont know flac exists.

I use flac with my squeezebox and yes I can hear the difference between mp3 and flac.

Flac does not sound better unless you have stunning hearing and a 10k setup.

Hardly any hifis, car stereos or portable players offer flac support.

Hope that was a blind test.

 

[wannabedamned]

If people only realised that flac sounds better than mp3 then they would surely demand flac

unfortunately most of the flock dont know flac exists.

I use flac with my squeezebox and yes I can hear the difference between mp3 and flac.

Indeed it is, unfortunately a lot of people dont have the sound system to show the difference. Its the same as uncompressed vs compressed audio. The difference is great, and worth it. I agree 100%.

But the amount of people who still watch TV through their HD screen's built in speakers, or play music through standard £20 speakers attached to their PC. It just wont catch on due to lack of real world application.

Flac does not sound better unless you have stunning hearing and a 10k setup.

You dont need stunning hearing, also you can get headphones for around the £100 mark that do uncompressed audio a great justice. Shure do a great range as do Sennheiser .

 

[dangerstat]

Of things things I've downloaded, they're normally scientific books that aren't stocked at my local library or book store so the only way I can have a flick through before buying is to download a copy. If then I think they're worth buying I do so.

 

[jackthezipper]

I generally see if I like something and if it actually gets watched/listened to then I'll buy a copy. My main buys are DVDs and they're worth maybe 1/50th of what I paid for them now.

 

[Dewotter]

The WWE does have CDs for most their themes, just to point out.

Kind of telling how high the piracy percentage is in the poll

True but never the ones I want or heavily edited versions of one, not like WWE can't afford to pay. Add to it that they only release one CD a year of the "in" thing instead of actual quality themes that's why I have this issue.

 

[Trifid]

Flac does not sound better unless you have stunning hearing and a 10k setup.

Hardly any hifis, car stereos or portable players offer flac support.

Hope that was a blind test.

I have a £300 setup and can hear the difference between FLAC and MP3 at 320Kbps (symbols/bells etc sound like they are being muted slightly). I can't however hear a difference between 16bit FLAC and 24bit but I still download 24bit vinyl rips if they are available. I want to download FLAC and there is a demand for it as shown by certain sites that offer it and V0 MP3.

 

[Merlin5]

I think hat the industry has finally court up

Also before court cases which has put a lot of casual down-loaders of.

caught cases